Getting more physical

dizzle88 · 05-13-2013, 03:46 AM

Physicality was one of our major strong points in 2009, people called us a finesse team but forget about how physical we really were

From the bruising runs of Mike Bell (remember him?)
Darren sharper knocking people on their backs
Vilma being a beast running all over the field

We need to get back to that, Payton will be giving the ball to ingram and PT alot!!

Rugby Saint II · 05-13-2013, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Physicality was one of our major strong points in 2009, people called us a finesse team but forget about how physical we really were

From the bruising runs of Mike Bell (remember him?)
Darren sharper knocking people on their backs
Vilma being a beast running all over the field

We need to get back to that, Payton will be giving the ball to ingram and PT alot!!

Good points dizzle. However in 2008 we were a finesse team. When GW brought his attitude to the defense in 2009 they in turn brought it to the offense. There were quite a few fights at camp and tempers flared.

The offense complained to Payton and he said "suck it up and play harder if you don't want to be bullied at practice". After that the attitude that we were no longer a finesse team was set in stone for the season.

Unfortunately, we don't have the same attitude now......we'll see how Ryan does at setting the tone with this new bunch of players. It would be nice to see that special Swagger back that says "OH NO YOU'RE NOT!"

hagan714 · 05-14-2013, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Good points dizzle. However in 2008 we were a finesse team. When GW brought his attitude to the defense in 2009 they in turn brought it to the offense. There were quite a few fights at camp and tempers flared.

The offense complained to Payton and he said "suck it up and play harder if you don't want to be bullied at practice". After that the attitude that we were no longer a finesse team was set in stone for the season.

Unfortunately, we don't have the same attitude now......we'll see how Ryan does at setting the tone with this new bunch of players. It would be nice to see that special Swagger back that says "OH NO YOU'RE NOT!"

Swagger should not be an issue to get into the upper 20's on defense. a monkey could do it. attack simple and plan. that is what this defense was built to do. we already have the players and yep spags ego made made him dumber than monkey

So do not give Ryan to much credit for a bounce back that is already there so do not go there

Seer1 · 05-14-2013, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Swagger should not be an issue to get into the upper 20's on defense. a monkey could do it. attack simple and plan. that is what this defense was built to do. we already have the players and yep spags ego made made him dumber than monkey

So do not give Ryan to much credit for a bounce back that is already there so do not go there

If that all pans out, I'm not only gonna be patting RR on the back. I'll also be raising a toast to you, good buddy.

hagan714 · 05-14-2013, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by Seer1

If that all pans out, I'm not only gonna be patting RR on the back. I'll also be raising a toast to you, good buddy.

Now i will give RR credit for adjustments during a game and for creativity. But this roster can handle the funkiest stuff you can throw at them. They did it for years with GW.

So i will give RR credit if he does this well

hagan714 · 05-14-2013, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Physicality was one of our major strong points in 2009, people called us a finesse team but forget about how physical we really were

From the bruising runs of Mike Bell (remember him?)
Darren sharper knocking people on their backs
Vilma being a beast running all over the field

We need to get back to that, Payton will be giving the ball to ingram and PT alot!!

LT J Bushrod
LG C Nicks*
C J Goodwin
RG J Evans*+
RT J Stinchcomb

here is our issue FA losses:

2011 - C J Goodwin
2012 - LG C Nicks*
2013 - LT J Bushrod

Granted some additions are solid and some are still developing and the remaining have yet to see a full season.

it just aint the same

The saints can only roll the dice so many times on the OL before drew pays the price. as far as getting rough and tough on the OL like in 2009? I seriously doubt it. i just do not see it as a group. I pray i am wrong and some players (more than one) steps up and surprises me.

05-13-2013, 03:46 AM	#1
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Getting more physical Physicality was one of our major strong points in 2009, people called us a finesse team but forget about how physical we really were From the bruising runs of Mike Bell (remember him?) Darren sharper knocking people on their backs Vilma being a beast running all over the field We need to get back to that, Payton will be giving the ball to ingram and PT alot!! 44Champs likes this.

05-13-2013, 02:39 PM	#2
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,119	Re: Getting more physical Originally Posted by dizzle88 Physicality was one of our major strong points in 2009, people called us a finesse team but forget about how physical we really were From the bruising runs of Mike Bell (remember him?) Darren sharper knocking people on their backs Vilma being a beast running all over the field We need to get back to that, Payton will be giving the ball to ingram and PT alot!! Good points dizzle. However in 2008 we were a finesse team. When GW brought his attitude to the defense in 2009 they in turn brought it to the offense. There were quite a few fights at camp and tempers flared. The offense complained to Payton and he said "suck it up and play harder if you don't want to be bullied at practice". After that the attitude that we were no longer a finesse team was set in stone for the season. Unfortunately, we don't have the same attitude now......we'll see how Ryan does at setting the tone with this new bunch of players. It would be nice to see that special Swagger back that says "OH NO YOU'RE NOT!" hagan714 likes this.
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05-14-2013, 09:16 AM	#3
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Getting more physical Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Good points dizzle. However in 2008 we were a finesse team. When GW brought his attitude to the defense in 2009 they in turn brought it to the offense. There were quite a few fights at camp and tempers flared. The offense complained to Payton and he said "suck it up and play harder if you don't want to be bullied at practice". After that the attitude that we were no longer a finesse team was set in stone for the season. Unfortunately, we don't have the same attitude now......we'll see how Ryan does at setting the tone with this new bunch of players. It would be nice to see that special Swagger back that says "OH NO YOU'RE NOT!" Swagger should not be an issue to get into the upper 20's on defense. a monkey could do it. attack simple and plan. that is what this defense was built to do. we already have the players and yep spags ego made made him dumber than monkey So do not give Ryan to much credit for a bounce back that is already there so do not go there
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05-14-2013, 10:11 AM	#4
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Getting more physical Originally Posted by hagan714 Swagger should not be an issue to get into the upper 20's on defense. a monkey could do it. attack simple and plan. that is what this defense was built to do. we already have the players and yep spags ego made made him dumber than monkey So do not give Ryan to much credit for a bounce back that is already there so do not go there If that all pans out, I'm not only gonna be patting RR on the back. I'll also be raising a toast to you, good buddy. hagan714 likes this.

05-14-2013, 01:37 PM	#5
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Getting more physical Originally Posted by Seer1 If that all pans out, I'm not only gonna be patting RR on the back. I'll also be raising a toast to you, good buddy. Now i will give RR credit for adjustments during a game and for creativity. But this roster can handle the funkiest stuff you can throw at them. They did it for years with GW. So i will give RR credit if he does this well

05-14-2013, 09:11 AM	#6
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Getting more physical Originally Posted by dizzle88 Physicality was one of our major strong points in 2009, people called us a finesse team but forget about how physical we really were From the bruising runs of Mike Bell (remember him?) Darren sharper knocking people on their backs Vilma being a beast running all over the field We need to get back to that, Payton will be giving the ball to ingram and PT alot!! LT J Bushrod LG C Nicks* C J Goodwin RG J Evans+ RT J Stinchcomb here is our issue FA losses: 2011 - C J Goodwin 2012 - LG C Nicks 2013 - LT J Bushrod Granted some additions are solid and some are still developing and the remaining have yet to see a full season. it just aint the same The saints can only roll the dice so many times on the OL before drew pays the price. as far as getting rough and tough on the OL like in 2009? I seriously doubt it. i just do not see it as a group. I pray i am wrong and some players (more than one) steps up and surprises me.
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