i wonder

spkb25 · 09-19-2004, 05:41 PM

im wondering if our personel on defense is really as horible as they play. is it just another problem because of coaching. does our system just suck. i really wonder. i wish we didnt have to sit through another year when u know ur not going anywhere. god next year and the hope that we fire haslett is all im looking forward to

CheramieIII · 09-19-2004, 06:04 PM

No I don\'t think they are that bad, I truly believe it\'s the schemes the coach puts us in.

spkb25 · 09-19-2004, 06:04 PM

me to cherm

saintz08 · 09-19-2004, 06:08 PM

im wondering if our personel on defense is really as horible as they play. is it just another problem because of coaching. does our system just suck. i really wonder.

Consider this :

Haslett in his first Head Coaching position was a player turned coach , former linebacker and linebacking coach has the worst linebackers in the league .Haslett was a defensive coordinator and his defenses never rank in the top 10 .

The only thing better then that is the fact that McCarthy has never been an offensive coordinator until he signed on with Haslett ....

The Saints coaching staff is like a blind squirrel trying to find a nut , sometimes they find one , sometimes they don\'t .......

spkb25 · 09-19-2004, 06:09 PM

good one saintz08

whodatsaintsfan26 · 09-19-2004, 06:15 PM

I think is the scheme. There seems to be talent out there. Just looks like they are out of position to make the plays. There has to be something in the scheme. I dont think 11 guys get out of position by themselves.

spkb25 · 09-19-2004, 06:16 PM

exactly

themightyduck · 09-19-2004, 07:28 PM

To me, it\'s not that the scheme sucked. It\'s that the coordinators don\'t know how to adjust to changes that opposing coaches make.

In the 1st quarter, the defense was looking great. Dorsey was getting pressure, the secondary was breaking up balls, and the running game hadn\'t really taken off (like it did in the 2nd half).

On offense, except for the running game, we looked pretty good. Brooks was throwing sound passes to receivers who were wide open. The passing game was excellent in the 1st half.

Now look at the 2nd half.

The defense was getting mauled. Dorsey had all day to throw. The SF coordinators went from a medium to long ball passing system to a short passing system. Venturi did absolutely nothing to help out the defense, and that\'s why the 49ers came back so quickly.

On offense, McCarthy stuck with his gameplan and made few adjustments. Now, the 49ers defense knew where the play was going. How many 3rd downs did you see where Brooks wasn\'t in shotgun? How many plays did you see a TE or a FB motioning to the side we were running to? McCarthy wasn\'t trying to outwit this defense. He was too dumb to figure out that the 49ers had figured out his system in a heartbeat.

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themightyduck 100th Post Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: New Orleans, Louisiana Posts: 219	i wonder To me, it\'s not that the scheme sucked. It\'s that the coordinators don\'t know how to adjust to changes that opposing coaches make. In the 1st quarter, the defense was looking great. Dorsey was getting pressure, the secondary was breaking up balls, and the running game hadn\'t really taken off (like it did in the 2nd half). On offense, except for the running game, we looked pretty good. Brooks was throwing sound passes to receivers who were wide open. The passing game was excellent in the 1st half. Now look at the 2nd half. The defense was getting mauled. Dorsey had all day to throw. The SF coordinators went from a medium to long ball passing system to a short passing system. Venturi did absolutely nothing to help out the defense, and that\'s why the 49ers came back so quickly. On offense, McCarthy stuck with his gameplan and made few adjustments. Now, the 49ers defense knew where the play was going. How many 3rd downs did you see where Brooks wasn\'t in shotgun? How many plays did you see a TE or a FB motioning to the side we were running to? McCarthy wasn\'t trying to outwit this defense. He was too dumb to figure out that the 49ers had figured out his system in a heartbeat.
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