Saints UDFA Ryan Griffin the QB of the Future

05-30-2013, 12:06 PM

He won't have to wait 5 years. Brees isn't getting any younger.

Supertek · 05-30-2013, 12:11 PM

Long progression to get to the top but look what happens with some guys like RG3, Wilson, among others sometimes you go to the right team and if you have "IT" you dont toll in the trenches. Hom much better would Brees be if he was 6Ft 5in ?

jeanpierre · 05-30-2013, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Has any elite QB ever waited 5 years for their turn to start?

Steve Young: Fifth Year in SF, Plus Two in TB

Aaron Rodgers: Started Fourth Year in GB

Matt Schaub: Started First Year in HOU after Three Years in ATL; Schaub is not one I'd consider 'elite' though he's has comparable passing totals.

Matt Flynn: Announced Starter Oakland 2013 after Four Years in GB and One in Oakland. Flynn has had one 'elite' game in Green Bay, but was passed over in Seattle and is now the franchise qb in Oakland.

The typical grooming period when a quarterback is not thrust into the starting role due to injury/ticket sales/job security is approximately three years...

Jamessr · 05-30-2013, 12:53 PM

I'm not going to get into the whole who will replace Drew Brees thing...
Because I don't think we'll get that type of player again ever. I'm going to enjoy what he has left.

P.S. I also feel sorry for the poor sob that does have to replace him

Danno · 05-30-2013, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Steve Young: Fifth Year in SF, Plus Two in TB

Aaron Rodgers: Started Fourth Year in GB

Matt Schaub: Started First Year in HOU after Three Years in ATL; Schaub is not one I'd consider 'elite' though he's has comparable passing totals.

Matt Flynn: Announced Starter Oakland 2013 after Four Years in GB and One in Oakland. Flynn has had one 'elite' game in Green Bay, but was passed over in Seattle and is now the franchise qb in Oakland.

The typical grooming period when a quarterback is not thrust into the starting role due to injury/ticket sales/job security is approximately three years...

Link or opinion?

I look at the top 10 QB's in this league and nearly every one started year 1 or 2.

5 years is way too long.

TheOak · 05-30-2013, 02:25 PM

Great QBs normally become starters out of necessity. Rarely are the Smiths booted out for the Kaeperniks, and rarely are they groomed to become elite. Sitting the bench behind a great provides little value beyond the first year. No one knows if a QB will be great until after they have been great for a few seasons.

They are either:
Drafted to start
Starter retires
Starter has career ending injury

halloween 65 · 05-30-2013, 03:07 PM

Let me start off by saying I love Brees, now I do not see him playing with being high effectively over another 3 years( I know, bash away) so why not groom this rookie to be a starter(keep in mind he may never live up to Brees) but if he can win games on a consistant level and plays well he has my vote. Who knows it possibly could end up like Brady got his start, you never know?!!

Jamessr · 05-30-2013, 03:29 PM

Let Payton and Loomis worry about Brees' replacement and when its time to find the poor sob.

I already don't like the guy because he isn't Brees!

WarEagle · 05-30-2013, 04:55 PM

Brady is 35 and Manning is 37. Both of those guys are still doing fine. Barring injury, Drew should remain really good for the duration of his contract (goes through the 2016 season, I think).

I think the Saints have at least two or three seasons before they need to worry about it (of course an injury can happen on any play). It does make you realize that the time is in the next two or three seasons for the Saints to try to make another run (or two!).

Crusader · 05-30-2013, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by Jamessr

I'm not going to get into the whole who will replace Drew Brees thing...
Because I don't think we'll get that type of player again ever. I'm going to enjoy what he has left.

P.S. I also feel sorry for the poor sob that does have to replace him

I bet the Packers thought the same after Favre retired. Or the 49ers after Montana...

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05-30-2013, 12:11 PM	#12
Supertek 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Harvey La. Posts: 611	Re: Saints UDFA Ryan Griffin the QB of the Future Long progression to get to the top but look what happens with some guys like RG3, Wilson, among others sometimes you go to the right team and if you have "IT" you dont toll in the trenches. Hom much better would Brees be if he was 6Ft 5in ?

05-30-2013, 12:33 PM	#13
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints UDFA Ryan Griffin the QB of the Future Originally Posted by Danno Has any elite QB ever waited 5 years for their turn to start? Steve Young: Fifth Year in SF, Plus Two in TB Aaron Rodgers: Started Fourth Year in GB Matt Schaub: Started First Year in HOU after Three Years in ATL; Schaub is not one I'd consider 'elite' though he's has comparable passing totals. Matt Flynn: Announced Starter Oakland 2013 after Four Years in GB and One in Oakland. Flynn has had one 'elite' game in Green Bay, but was passed over in Seattle and is now the franchise qb in Oakland. The typical grooming period when a quarterback is not thrust into the starting role due to injury/ticket sales/job security is approximately three years...
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05-30-2013, 12:53 PM	#14
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: Saints UDFA Ryan Griffin the QB of the Future I'm not going to get into the whole who will replace Drew Brees thing... Because I don't think we'll get that type of player again ever. I'm going to enjoy what he has left. P.S. I also feel sorry for the poor sob that does have to replace him SapperSaint, 73Saint, st thomas and 2 others like this.

05-30-2013, 02:15 PM	#15
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Saints UDFA Ryan Griffin the QB of the Future Originally Posted by jeanpierre Steve Young: Fifth Year in SF, Plus Two in TB Aaron Rodgers: Started Fourth Year in GB Matt Schaub: Started First Year in HOU after Three Years in ATL; Schaub is not one I'd consider 'elite' though he's has comparable passing totals. Matt Flynn: Announced Starter Oakland 2013 after Four Years in GB and One in Oakland. Flynn has had one 'elite' game in Green Bay, but was passed over in Seattle and is now the franchise qb in Oakland. The typical grooming period when a quarterback is not thrust into the starting role due to injury/ticket sales/job security is approximately three years... Link or opinion? I look at the top 10 QB's in this league and nearly every one started year 1 or 2. 5 years is way too long.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Saints UDFA Ryan Griffin the QB of the Future Great QBs normally become starters out of necessity. Rarely are the Smiths booted out for the Kaeperniks, and rarely are they groomed to become elite. Sitting the bench behind a great provides little value beyond the first year. No one knows if a QB will be great until after they have been great for a few seasons. They are either: Drafted to start Starter retires Starter has career ending injury
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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints UDFA Ryan Griffin the QB of the Future Let me start off by saying I love Brees, now I do not see him playing with being high effectively over another 3 years( I know, bash away) so why not groom this rookie to be a starter(keep in mind he may never live up to Brees) but if he can win games on a consistant level and plays well he has my vote. Who knows it possibly could end up like Brady got his start, you never know?!!

05-30-2013, 03:29 PM	#18
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: Saints UDFA Ryan Griffin the QB of the Future Let Payton and Loomis worry about Brees' replacement and when its time to find the poor sob. I already don't like the guy because he isn't Brees! darksoul35 likes this.

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WarEagle Registered Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 96	Re: Saints UDFA Ryan Griffin the QB of the Future Brady is 35 and Manning is 37. Both of those guys are still doing fine. Barring injury, Drew should remain really good for the duration of his contract (goes through the 2016 season, I think). I think the Saints have at least two or three seasons before they need to worry about it (of course an injury can happen on any play). It does make you realize that the time is in the next two or three seasons for the Saints to try to make another run (or two!). darksoul35 likes this.
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05-30-2013, 05:16 PM	#20
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: Saints UDFA Ryan Griffin the QB of the Future Originally Posted by Jamessr I'm not going to get into the whole who will replace Drew Brees thing... Because I don't think we'll get that type of player again ever. I'm going to enjoy what he has left. P.S. I also feel sorry for the poor sob that does have to replace him I bet the Packers thought the same after Favre retired. Or the 49ers after Montana...

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