Saints UDFA Ryan Griffin the QB of the Future

TheOak · 05-30-2013, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Will he wait 5 years?

Considering every team passed on him 5 or more times in the draft. He is probably not on anyone's radar and may have no choice. If he doesn't there will be 5 more rookie classes to choose from.

Danno · 05-30-2013, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Considering every team passed on him 5 or more times in the draft. He is probably not on anyone's radar and may have no choice. If he doesn't there will be 5 more rookie classes to choose from.

2 or 3 good preseasons and teams will come calling, just as they did with Chase Daniel.

Perhaps PS for 2 seasons, then actual back-up for a couple more, then maybe we can talk about him being the man.

Has any elite QB ever waited 5 years for their turn to start?

billyt81 · 05-30-2013, 10:31 AM

I'm pretty sure Steve Young waited 5 years.

Danno · 05-30-2013, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by billyt81

I'm pretty sure Steve Young waited 5 years.

He was a starter in the USFL and with Tampa Bay before he sat behind Montana wasn't he? And that was over 20 years ago.

jeanpierre · 05-30-2013, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Has any elite QB ever waited 5 years for their turn to start?

Steve Young: Fifth Year in SF, Plus Two in TB

Aaron Rodgers: Started Fourth Year in GB

Matt Schaub: Started First Year in HOU after Three Years in ATL; Schaub is not one I'd consider 'elite' though he's has comparable passing totals.

Matt Flynn: Announced Starter Oakland 2013 after Four Years in GB and One in Oakland. Flynn has had one 'elite' game in Green Bay, but was passed over in Seattle and is now the franchise qb in Oakland.

The typical grooming period when a quarterback is not thrust into the starting role due to injury/ticket sales/job security is approximately three years...

Danno · 05-30-2013, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Steve Young: Fifth Year in SF, Plus Two in TB

Aaron Rodgers: Started Fourth Year in GB

Matt Schaub: Started First Year in HOU after Three Years in ATL; Schaub is not one I'd consider 'elite' though he's has comparable passing totals.

Matt Flynn: Announced Starter Oakland 2013 after Four Years in GB and One in Oakland. Flynn has had one 'elite' game in Green Bay, but was passed over in Seattle and is now the franchise qb in Oakland.

The typical grooming period when a quarterback is not thrust into the starting role due to injury/ticket sales/job security is approximately three years...

Link or opinion?

I look at the top 10 QB's in this league and nearly every one started year 1 or 2.

5 years is way too long.

jeanpierre · 05-30-2013, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Link or opinion?

I look at the top 10 QB's in this league and nearly every one started year 1 or 2.

5 years is way too long.

Wikipedia, ProFootball Reference, research it for yourself...

Point is, it's not unheard of...

And so what if we groom a backup now and Drew were to play five more years, if it's Griffin and year 5 Drew retires and he's ready to roll, then that's the way it is...

Danno · 05-31-2013, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Wikipedia, ProFootball Reference, research it for yourself...

Point is, it's not unheard of...

And so what if we groom a backup now and Drew were to play five more years, if it's Griffin and year 5 Drew retires and he's ready to roll, then that's the way it is...

My point was Griffin isn't likely gonna sit for 5 years. A few good preseasons and some QB hungry teams are gonna throw money at him just like they did Chase.

Its possible that he develops into a Drew Brees type elite QB, but not likely.

Its possible that if he does develop he'll sit a couple extra years earning pennies, but its not likely.

I just don't see a QB in the league that has done it, and can't remember one doing it in the last 20 years.

TheOak · 05-31-2013, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

My point was Griffin isn't likely gonna sit for 5 years. A few good preseasons and some QB hungry teams are gonna throw money at him just like they did Chase.

Its possible that he develops into a Drew Brees type elite QB, but not likely.

Its possible that if he does develop he'll sit a couple extra years earning pennies, but its not likely.

I just don't see a QB in the league that has done it, and can't remember one doing it in the last 20 years.

Well.... There is 1 and from my digging only 1, but you will have to go back 21 years.

05-30-2013, 10:03 AM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,061	Re: Saints UDFA Ryan Griffin the QB of the Future Originally Posted by Danno Will he wait 5 years? Considering every team passed on him 5 or more times in the draft. He is probably not on anyone's radar and may have no choice. If he doesn't there will be 5 more rookie classes to choose from.

05-30-2013, 10:11 AM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,761	Re: Saints UDFA Ryan Griffin the QB of the Future Originally Posted by TheOak Considering every team passed on him 5 or more times in the draft. He is probably not on anyone's radar and may have no choice. If he doesn't there will be 5 more rookie classes to choose from. 2 or 3 good preseasons and teams will come calling, just as they did with Chase Daniel. Perhaps PS for 2 seasons, then actual back-up for a couple more, then maybe we can talk about him being the man. Has any elite QB ever waited 5 years for their turn to start?

05-30-2013, 10:31 AM	#3
billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: Saints UDFA Ryan Griffin the QB of the Future I'm pretty sure Steve Young waited 5 years.

05-30-2013, 10:55 AM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,761	Re: Saints UDFA Ryan Griffin the QB of the Future Originally Posted by billyt81 I'm pretty sure Steve Young waited 5 years. He was a starter in the USFL and with Tampa Bay before he sat behind Montana wasn't he? And that was over 20 years ago. K Major likes this.

05-30-2013, 11:33 AM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints UDFA Ryan Griffin the QB of the Future Originally Posted by Danno Has any elite QB ever waited 5 years for their turn to start? Steve Young: Fifth Year in SF, Plus Two in TB Aaron Rodgers: Started Fourth Year in GB Matt Schaub: Started First Year in HOU after Three Years in ATL; Schaub is not one I'd consider 'elite' though he's has comparable passing totals. Matt Flynn: Announced Starter Oakland 2013 after Four Years in GB and One in Oakland. Flynn has had one 'elite' game in Green Bay, but was passed over in Seattle and is now the franchise qb in Oakland. The typical grooming period when a quarterback is not thrust into the starting role due to injury/ticket sales/job security is approximately three years...
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05-30-2013, 01:15 PM	#6
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,761	Re: Saints UDFA Ryan Griffin the QB of the Future Originally Posted by jeanpierre Steve Young: Fifth Year in SF, Plus Two in TB Aaron Rodgers: Started Fourth Year in GB Matt Schaub: Started First Year in HOU after Three Years in ATL; Schaub is not one I'd consider 'elite' though he's has comparable passing totals. Matt Flynn: Announced Starter Oakland 2013 after Four Years in GB and One in Oakland. Flynn has had one 'elite' game in Green Bay, but was passed over in Seattle and is now the franchise qb in Oakland. The typical grooming period when a quarterback is not thrust into the starting role due to injury/ticket sales/job security is approximately three years... Link or opinion? I look at the top 10 QB's in this league and nearly every one started year 1 or 2. 5 years is way too long.

05-30-2013, 08:03 PM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints UDFA Ryan Griffin the QB of the Future Originally Posted by Danno Link or opinion? I look at the top 10 QB's in this league and nearly every one started year 1 or 2. 5 years is way too long. Wikipedia, ProFootball Reference, research it for yourself... Point is, it's not unheard of... And so what if we groom a backup now and Drew were to play five more years, if it's Griffin and year 5 Drew retires and he's ready to roll, then that's the way it is...

05-31-2013, 08:10 AM	#8
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,761	Re: Saints UDFA Ryan Griffin the QB of the Future Originally Posted by jeanpierre Wikipedia, ProFootball Reference, research it for yourself... Point is, it's not unheard of... And so what if we groom a backup now and Drew were to play five more years, if it's Griffin and year 5 Drew retires and he's ready to roll, then that's the way it is... My point was Griffin isn't likely gonna sit for 5 years. A few good preseasons and some QB hungry teams are gonna throw money at him just like they did Chase. Its possible that he develops into a Drew Brees type elite QB, but not likely. Its possible that if he does develop he'll sit a couple extra years earning pennies, but its not likely. I just don't see a QB in the league that has done it, and can't remember one doing it in the last 20 years.

05-31-2013, 08:58 AM	#9
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,061	Re: Saints UDFA Ryan Griffin the QB of the Future Originally Posted by Danno My point was Griffin isn't likely gonna sit for 5 years. A few good preseasons and some QB hungry teams are gonna throw money at him just like they did Chase. Its possible that he develops into a Drew Brees type elite QB, but not likely. Its possible that if he does develop he'll sit a couple extra years earning pennies, but its not likely. I just don't see a QB in the league that has done it, and can't remember one doing it in the last 20 years. Well.... There is 1 and from my digging only 1, but you will have to go back 21 years.

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