Rob Ryan is Impressed with How Quickly New Orleans Saints Veterans are Learning System

hagan714 · 05-31-2013, 05:24 AM

ok nothing unexpected in my book. years of wacky attacking defensive schemes under williams is what we are seeing. last year was not a total waste either. players had to be more disciplined and playing out of position only help them understand the over all defense and what players are suppose to do at those positions. that will only help them when they go back to playing their natural positions.

the defense did not need gutting the defense needed to return to attacking and a move of players to their natural positions.

it was not the players it was the coaching ideology last year

saintsfan1976 · 05-31-2013, 06:48 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

ok nothing unexpected in my book. years of wacky attacking defensive schemes under williams is what we are seeing. last year was not a total waste either. players had to be more disciplined and playing out of position only help them understand the over all defense and what players are suppose to do at those positions. that will only help them when they go back to playing their natural positions.

the defense did not need gutting the defense needed to return to attacking and a move of players to their natural positions.

it was not the players it was the coaching ideology last year

No gutting was not necessary. Discipline is key, chaos helps. But IMO the biggest need was true versatility. Vacarro is a prime example.

My other most intriguing defensive players for 2013 are
Malcolm Jenkins
Chase Thomas
Curtis Lofton

K Major · 05-31-2013, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

No gutting was not necessary. Discipline is key, chaos helps. But IMO the biggest need was true versatility. Vacarro is a prime example.

My other most intriguing defensive players for 2013 are
Malcolm Jenkins
Chase Thomas
Curtis Lofton

Yes, Chase Thomas is definitely becoming more intriguing for me as well.

Seer1 · 05-31-2013, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

No gutting was not necessary. Discipline is key, chaos helps. But IMO the biggest need was true versatility. Vacarro is a prime example.

My other most intriguing defensive players for 2013 are
Malcolm Jenkins
Chase Thomas
Curtis Lofton

I like the list, but I'm throwing John Jenkins and -believe it or not- Will Smith in as well.

SmashMouth · 05-31-2013, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

ok nothing unexpected in my book. years of wacky attacking defensive schemes under williams is what we are seeing. last year was not a total waste either. players had to be more disciplined and playing out of position only help them understand the over all defense and what players are suppose to do at those positions. that will only help them when they go back to playing their natural positions.

the defense did not need gutting the defense needed to return to attacking and a move of players to their natural positions.

it was not the players it was the coaching ideology last year

So.... that's why they got rid of Spags.....

D_it_up · 05-31-2013, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

the defense did not need gutting the defense needed to return to attacking and a move of players to their natural positions.

it was not the players it was the coaching ideology last year

This is EXACTLY why I wasn't worried about the defense when I heard they were switching to a 3-4 alignment. I knew we had the majority of the personnel already, and many of these guys played in a similar attacking defense under Gregg Williams. You are absolutely right. There didn't need to be wholesale changes. Just a few additions in the right places and a little tweaking here and there. I honestly think this defense is going to be fun to watch instead of wanting to turn my head away from the action when they are on the field like last year.

05-31-2013, 05:24 AM	#1
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Rob Ryan is Impressed with How Quickly New Orleans Saints Veterans are Learning System ok nothing unexpected in my book. years of wacky attacking defensive schemes under williams is what we are seeing. last year was not a total waste either. players had to be more disciplined and playing out of position only help them understand the over all defense and what players are suppose to do at those positions. that will only help them when they go back to playing their natural positions. the defense did not need gutting the defense needed to return to attacking and a move of players to their natural positions. it was not the players it was the coaching ideology last year D_it_up, Danno and saintsfan1976 like this.
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05-31-2013, 06:48 AM	#2
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,104 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Rob Ryan is Impressed with How Quickly New Orleans Saints Veterans are Learning System Originally Posted by hagan714 ok nothing unexpected in my book. years of wacky attacking defensive schemes under williams is what we are seeing. last year was not a total waste either. players had to be more disciplined and playing out of position only help them understand the over all defense and what players are suppose to do at those positions. that will only help them when they go back to playing their natural positions. the defense did not need gutting the defense needed to return to attacking and a move of players to their natural positions. it was not the players it was the coaching ideology last year No gutting was not necessary. Discipline is key, chaos helps. But IMO the biggest need was true versatility. Vacarro is a prime example. My other most intriguing defensive players for 2013 are Malcolm Jenkins Chase Thomas Curtis Lofton K Major likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,921 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Rob Ryan is Impressed with How Quickly New Orleans Saints Veterans are Learning System Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 No gutting was not necessary. Discipline is key, chaos helps. But IMO the biggest need was true versatility. Vacarro is a prime example. My other most intriguing defensive players for 2013 are Malcolm Jenkins Chase Thomas Curtis Lofton Yes, Chase Thomas is definitely becoming more intriguing for me as well.

05-31-2013, 02:42 PM	#4
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Rob Ryan is Impressed with How Quickly New Orleans Saints Veterans are Learning System Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 No gutting was not necessary. Discipline is key, chaos helps. But IMO the biggest need was true versatility. Vacarro is a prime example. My other most intriguing defensive players for 2013 are Malcolm Jenkins Chase Thomas Curtis Lofton I like the list, but I'm throwing John Jenkins and -believe it or not- Will Smith in as well.

05-31-2013, 07:01 AM	#5
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 39,277 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Rob Ryan is Impressed with How Quickly New Orleans Saints Veterans are Learning System Originally Posted by hagan714 ok nothing unexpected in my book. years of wacky attacking defensive schemes under williams is what we are seeing. last year was not a total waste either. players had to be more disciplined and playing out of position only help them understand the over all defense and what players are suppose to do at those positions. that will only help them when they go back to playing their natural positions. the defense did not need gutting the defense needed to return to attacking and a move of players to their natural positions. it was not the players it was the coaching ideology last year So.... that's why they got rid of Spags..... Rugby Saint II likes this.

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D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Rob Ryan is Impressed with How Quickly New Orleans Saints Veterans are Learning System Originally Posted by hagan714 the defense did not need gutting the defense needed to return to attacking and a move of players to their natural positions. it was not the players it was the coaching ideology last year This is EXACTLY why I wasn't worried about the defense when I heard they were switching to a 3-4 alignment. I knew we had the majority of the personnel already, and many of these guys played in a similar attacking defense under Gregg Williams. You are absolutely right. There didn't need to be wholesale changes. Just a few additions in the right places and a little tweaking here and there. I honestly think this defense is going to be fun to watch instead of wanting to turn my head away from the action when they are on the field like last year.
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