Moonshiner excuses

saintfan · 09-21-2004, 10:24 AM

http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index...7971324520.xml

The injury comes at a time when the running game was struggling to muster yards even with McAllister in the backfield.

Yeah, but, he's not getting any blocking.

After two games, the Saints rank 31st in rushing offense...

Yeah, but, he's not getting any blocking.

The Saints ranked 11th in rushing last season, averaging 125 yards per game.

Deuce is a top 10 back tho. ;)

After McAllister set a club record with nine consecutive 100-yard rushing games, the Saints have gone six straight games without a 100-yard rusher.

Yeah, but, he's not getting any blocking.

They have not scored a rushing touchdown since a 33-20 loss at Philadelphia in Game 11 of last season, a span of seven games.

Ummm...Brooks throws the ball too much.

The stretch of games without a 100-yard rusher is the longest for the Saints since the end of the 2000 season

Ummm...yeah, but he's not getting any blocking.

So far this season, the Saints have not had a runner make a gain of more than 20 yards.

See, he's not getting any blocking.

:poke:

JOESAM2002 · 09-21-2004, 01:30 PM

I agree the blocking sux!

WhoDat · 09-21-2004, 02:07 PM

OK - so let me get this straight - your argument then, if you can put aside the sarcasm, is that our offensive line is opening holes well, the play calling is good, and the problem is simply that Deuce isn\'t performing. Is that correct? Deuce is THE problem, or at least the MAJOR problem with the running game. That\'s your claim?

saintfan · 09-21-2004, 02:13 PM

I\'m not really making an \"argument\" whodat. Nice try tho.

The thing I\'m saying (a bit sarcastically I admit) is that I\'m noticing folks come to Deuce\'s defense and make excuse after excuse for him. I find that a bit strange...or at least a tad hypocritical. You don\'t?

WhoDat · 09-21-2004, 02:19 PM

Not in the least. First of all, most of us admit that Deuce is not playing up to his potential right now. Part of that is Deuce. Part of that is coaching. Part of that is a porous O-line.

I\'m interested as to how you can rush to the defense of a young QB whose numbers put him in the middle of the league and whose sporatic play is a source of constant frustration for even teammates and coaches, but you are unwilling to place blame on anyone other than you star Pro Bowl RB, whose has consistently proven his worth for a number of years, and after a coaching decision changed the system in which he thrived. Maybe you can explain that to me.

saintfan · 09-21-2004, 02:22 PM

Whatchu rekon you\'d say if Brooks had failed to throw a TD since LAST NOVEMBER?

WhoDat · 09-21-2004, 02:31 PM

I guess that depends on why he hadn\'t thrown one - most probably, I\'d go back the same argument I\'ve used on Brooks for a long time - not the right system. Amazingly, that\'s the same argument I\'m using with Deuce!

We can make this very simple if you want. Answer a few questions for me.

Over the last two or three seasons, who has been the Saints MVP?

Who was the MVP coming into this season?

Who is the MVP now? this season? long-term?

How many teams would trade their RB straight up for Deuce? How many would trade their QB straight up for Brooks?

You\'re trying to show bias here Saintfan. That\'s fine, you\'ve been doing that for a while. Problem is, I\'ve been real fair to AB for a long time. Maybe if you were right about Deuce or Brooks you\'d have a leg to stand on... too bad.

saintfan · 09-21-2004, 03:01 PM

What good is Deuce if he can\'t even rush for a hundred frappin\' yards and doesn\'t score TD\'s?

MVP schim VP is what I say. And since he needs his Full Back, I guess we\'d have to give the MVP award to t-rex now wouldn\'t we?

saintfan · 09-21-2004, 03:03 PM

I guess that depends on why he hadn\'t thrown one

and if the reason were dropped passes -- those very passes that were dropped that you and the other moonshiners refused to acknowledge when I was screaming about it?

Double-Standard if ever I saw on baby. :P

saintfan · 09-21-2004, 03:04 PM

How many teams would trade their RB straight up for Deuce? How many would trade their QB straight up for Brooks?

I don\'t know. But then neither do you.

09-21-2004, 10:24 AM	#1
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Moonshiner excuses http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index...7971324520.xml The injury comes at a time when the running game was struggling to muster yards even with McAllister in the backfield. Yeah, but, he's not getting any blocking. After two games, the Saints rank 31st in rushing offense... Yeah, but, he's not getting any blocking. The Saints ranked 11th in rushing last season, averaging 125 yards per game. Deuce is a top 10 back tho. ;) After McAllister set a club record with nine consecutive 100-yard rushing games, the Saints have gone six straight games without a 100-yard rusher. Yeah, but, he's not getting any blocking. They have not scored a rushing touchdown since a 33-20 loss at Philadelphia in Game 11 of last season, a span of seven games. Ummm...Brooks throws the ball too much. The stretch of games without a 100-yard rusher is the longest for the Saints since the end of the 2000 season Ummm...yeah, but he's not getting any blocking. So far this season, the Saints have not had a runner make a gain of more than 20 yards. See, he's not getting any blocking. :poke:

09-21-2004, 01:30 PM	#2
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Moonshiner excuses I agree the blocking sux!

09-21-2004, 02:07 PM	#3
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Moonshiner excuses OK - so let me get this straight - your argument then, if you can put aside the sarcasm, is that our offensive line is opening holes well, the play calling is good, and the problem is simply that Deuce isn\'t performing. Is that correct? Deuce is THE problem, or at least the MAJOR problem with the running game. That\'s your claim?
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09-21-2004, 02:13 PM	#4
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Moonshiner excuses I\'m not really making an \"argument\" whodat. Nice try tho. The thing I\'m saying (a bit sarcastically I admit) is that I\'m noticing folks come to Deuce\'s defense and make excuse after excuse for him. I find that a bit strange...or at least a tad hypocritical. You don\'t?

09-21-2004, 02:19 PM	#5
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Moonshiner excuses Not in the least. First of all, most of us admit that Deuce is not playing up to his potential right now. Part of that is Deuce. Part of that is coaching. Part of that is a porous O-line. I\'m interested as to how you can rush to the defense of a young QB whose numbers put him in the middle of the league and whose sporatic play is a source of constant frustration for even teammates and coaches, but you are unwilling to place blame on anyone other than you star Pro Bowl RB, whose has consistently proven his worth for a number of years, and after a coaching decision changed the system in which he thrived. Maybe you can explain that to me.
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09-21-2004, 02:22 PM	#6
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Moonshiner excuses Whatchu rekon you\'d say if Brooks had failed to throw a TD since LAST NOVEMBER?

09-21-2004, 02:31 PM	#7
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Moonshiner excuses I guess that depends on why he hadn\'t thrown one - most probably, I\'d go back the same argument I\'ve used on Brooks for a long time - not the right system. Amazingly, that\'s the same argument I\'m using with Deuce! We can make this very simple if you want. Answer a few questions for me. Over the last two or three seasons, who has been the Saints MVP? Who was the MVP coming into this season? Who is the MVP now? this season? long-term? How many teams would trade their RB straight up for Deuce? How many would trade their QB straight up for Brooks? You\'re trying to show bias here Saintfan. That\'s fine, you\'ve been doing that for a while. Problem is, I\'ve been real fair to AB for a long time. Maybe if you were right about Deuce or Brooks you\'d have a leg to stand on... too bad.
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. ThatÃ¢Â€Â™s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans SaintsÃ¢Â€Â™ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse \"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"

09-21-2004, 03:01 PM	#8
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Moonshiner excuses What good is Deuce if he can\'t even rush for a hundred frappin\' yards and doesn\'t score TD\'s? MVP schim VP is what I say. And since he needs his Full Back, I guess we\'d have to give the MVP award to t-rex now wouldn\'t we?

09-21-2004, 03:03 PM	#9
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Moonshiner excuses I guess that depends on why he hadn\'t thrown one and if the reason were dropped passes -- those very passes that were dropped that you and the other moonshiners refused to acknowledge when I was screaming about it? Double-Standard if ever I saw on baby. :P

09-21-2004, 03:04 PM	#10
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Moonshiner excuses How many teams would trade their RB straight up for Deuce? How many would trade their QB straight up for Brooks? I don\'t know. But then neither do you.