I hate to bring this up, but...

SapperSaint · 06-21-2013, 08:10 AM

with Aaron Hernandez more than likely going to jail and Gronk no where near healthy; I think we need to start worrying about signing Jimmy now. I just have this "Thing" telling me NE will be pursuing him hard.

Am I being a worry wart?

Police issue arrest warrant for Aaron Hernandez of New England Patriots, reports ABC News - ESPN Boston

Danno · 06-21-2013, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

with Aaron Hernandez more than likely going to jail and Gronk no where near healthy; I think we need to start worrying about signing Jimmy now. I just have this "Thing" telling me NE will be pursuing him hard.

Am I being a worry wart?

They have a large amount of money invested in those TE's. Adding another 8 million per season TE is putting a lot of the resources at one position.

I'd be more worried about a team that doesn't already have a stud TE and a ton of cap room. That would be about half the league.

I think numerous teams will be pursuing him hard, but I don't think New England will be one of them.

I'm worried too.

TheOak · 06-21-2013, 09:13 AM

I see Jimmy as more of a loyalist than a capitalist. It's what I get from his interviews and public statements. He has a sense of loyalty to Drew and Sean.

Personally, I would much rather leverage Jimmy against Drews restructure next season. They both know they are each others best shot.

The present situation dictates that we:

1. Do not have the $ this season.
2. Can ill afford to lose the leverage that next season will present in regards to both players contracts.

Develop the stomach required to play the game. Next season we can leverage both against each other.

AsylumGuido · 06-21-2013, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I see Jimmy as more of a loyalist than a capitalist. It's what I get from his interviews and public statements. He has a sense of loyalty to Drew and Sean.

Personally, I would much rather leverage Jimmy against Drews restructure next season. They both know they are each others best shot.

The present situation dictates that we:

1. Do not have the $ this season.
2. Can ill afford to lose the leverage that next season will present in regards to both players contracts.

Develop the stomach required to play the game. Next season we can leverage both against each other.

^^^

This. Graham has stated on more than one occasion that he wants to remain a Saint as long as Brees is here.

dizzle88 · 06-21-2013, 09:58 AM

Not gonna happen, mickey will get the job done

NE are in a little bit of bother at the minute, no WR's brady knows at camp, now no TE's

lee909 · 06-21-2013, 11:21 AM

Nabbing Ballard from the Giants and stashing him on IR last year looks like it will pay off for them.

SapperSaint · 06-21-2013, 11:33 AM

I wish I could believe he isn't going to leave. Money talks folks. If the crappiest team throws guranteed millions at him, I think her leave "loyalty" at the door.

Not bringing up old wounds; Drew left "Loyaty" at the front door of his house when it came to his contract/money.

|Mitch| · 06-21-2013, 11:38 AM

I'm not going to worry about it, that's all on Loomis... Not like worrying about it will have any difference on the outcome

TheOak · 06-21-2013, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

I wish I could believe he isn't going to leave. Money talks folks. If the crappiest team throws guranteed millions at him, I think her leave "loyalty" at the door.

Not bringing up old wounds; Drew left "Loyaty" at the front door of his house when it came to his contract/money.

Drew stayed loyal, he just won the contract negotiation game. Sorry, I seem to be one of the few people that wouldn't pay his employer to work for him. Dollar values are moot, when negotiating employment you give nothing because they are not going to just give more to you than they have to.

Which teams did he visit? What were his other offers?

biloxi-indian · 06-21-2013, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Drew stayed loyal, he just won the contract negotiation game. Sorry, I seem to be one of the few people that wouldn't pay his employer to work for him. Dollar values are moot, when negotiating employment you give nothing because they are not going to just give more to you than they have to.

Which teams did he visit? What were his other offers?

Saints placed their exclusive-rights franchise tag on Brees. Under the rules of the exclusive franchise tag, Brees could not be contacted by other teams and remained exclusive property of the Saints.

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SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	I hate to bring this up, but... with Aaron Hernandez more than likely going to jail and Gronk no where near healthy; I think we need to start worrying about signing Jimmy now. I just have this "Thing" telling me NE will be pursuing him hard. Am I being a worry wart? Police issue arrest warrant for Aaron Hernandez of New England Patriots, reports ABC News - ESPN Boston OldMaid likes this.
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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: I hate to bring this up, but... Originally Posted by SapperSaint with Aaron Hernandez more than likely going to jail and Gronk no where near healthy; I think we need to start worrying about signing Jimmy now. I just have this "Thing" telling me NE will be pursuing him hard. Am I being a worry wart? They have a large amount of money invested in those TE's. Adding another 8 million per season TE is putting a lot of the resources at one position. I'd be more worried about a team that doesn't already have a stud TE and a ton of cap room. That would be about half the league. I think numerous teams will be pursuing him hard, but I don't think New England will be one of them. I'm worried too. ClintSaints likes this.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: I hate to bring this up, but... I see Jimmy as more of a loyalist than a capitalist. It's what I get from his interviews and public statements. He has a sense of loyalty to Drew and Sean. Personally, I would much rather leverage Jimmy against Drews restructure next season. They both know they are each others best shot. The present situation dictates that we: 1. Do not have the $ this season. 2. Can ill afford to lose the leverage that next season will present in regards to both players contracts. Develop the stomach required to play the game. Next season we can leverage both against each other. ClintSaints and ProMallNinja like this.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: I hate to bring this up, but... Originally Posted by TheOak I see Jimmy as more of a loyalist than a capitalist. It's what I get from his interviews and public statements. He has a sense of loyalty to Drew and Sean. Personally, I would much rather leverage Jimmy against Drews restructure next season. They both know they are each others best shot. The present situation dictates that we: 1. Do not have the $ this season. 2. Can ill afford to lose the leverage that next season will present in regards to both players contracts. Develop the stomach required to play the game. Next season we can leverage both against each other. ^^^ This. Graham has stated on more than one occasion that he wants to remain a Saint as long as Brees is here.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: I hate to bring this up, but... Not gonna happen, mickey will get the job done NE are in a little bit of bother at the minute, no WR's brady knows at camp, now no TE's

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lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,855 Blog Entries: 1	Re: I hate to bring this up, but... Nabbing Ballard from the Giants and stashing him on IR last year looks like it will pay off for them. ProMallNinja likes this.

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SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: I hate to bring this up, but... I wish I could believe he isn't going to leave. Money talks folks. If the crappiest team throws guranteed millions at him, I think her leave "loyalty" at the door. Not bringing up old wounds; Drew left "Loyaty" at the front door of his house when it came to his contract/money.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: I hate to bring this up, but... I'm not going to worry about it, that's all on Loomis... Not like worrying about it will have any difference on the outcome

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: I hate to bring this up, but... Originally Posted by SapperSaint I wish I could believe he isn't going to leave. Money talks folks. If the crappiest team throws guranteed millions at him, I think her leave "loyalty" at the door. Not bringing up old wounds; Drew left "Loyaty" at the front door of his house when it came to his contract/money. Drew stayed loyal, he just won the contract negotiation game. Sorry, I seem to be one of the few people that wouldn't pay his employer to work for him. Dollar values are moot, when negotiating employment you give nothing because they are not going to just give more to you than they have to. Which teams did he visit? What were his other offers? pumpkindriver and ProMallNinja like this.

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biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Re: I hate to bring this up, but... Originally Posted by TheOak Drew stayed loyal, he just won the contract negotiation game. Sorry, I seem to be one of the few people that wouldn't pay his employer to work for him. Dollar values are moot, when negotiating employment you give nothing because they are not going to just give more to you than they have to. Which teams did he visit? What were his other offers? Saints placed their exclusive-rights franchise tag on Brees. Under the rules of the exclusive franchise tag, Brees could not be contacted by other teams and remained exclusive property of the Saints.

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