I hate to bring this up, but...

Seer1 · 06-21-2013, 01:21 PM

One year at a time my friend. If we get the ring, look for a wholesale buh-bye next year. If we don't many, including Jimmy"ll be around for a while. The Pats are going to need TEs this year and Jimmy's ours for this one.*

*Providing he stays healthy.

TheOak · 06-21-2013, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by SapperSaint

I wish I could believe he isn't going to leave. Money talks folks. If the crappiest team throws guranteed millions at him, I think her leave "loyalty" at the door.

Not bringing up old wounds; Drew left "Loyaty" at the front door of his house when it came to his contract/money.

Drew stayed loyal, he just won the contract negotiation game. Sorry, I seem to be one of the few people that wouldn't pay his employer to work for him. Dollar values are moot, when negotiating employment you give nothing because they are not going to just give more to you than they have to.

Which teams did he visit? What were his other offers?

biloxi-indian · 06-21-2013, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Drew stayed loyal, he just won the contract negotiation game. Sorry, I seem to be one of the few people that wouldn't pay his employer to work for him. Dollar values are moot, when negotiating employment you give nothing because they are not going to just give more to you than they have to.

Which teams did he visit? What were his other offers?

Saints placed their exclusive-rights franchise tag on Brees. Under the rules of the exclusive franchise tag, Brees could not be contacted by other teams and remained exclusive property of the Saints.

jeanpierre · 06-21-2013, 06:24 PM

Worst case scenario - he gets franchised next season, approximately 6.5mil/year, then we could tag him again next year with escalator, allowing two years to find a replacement...

The smart move: contract extension now, giving more money sooner and spreading the salary cap hit over more years with less of a dent per year...

He gets wealthier faster and the Saints have a manageable salary impact...

Plus you eliminate the "distraction"; and Drew won't let the big Mo affect his play, game...

TheOak · 06-21-2013, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by biloxi-indian

Saints placed their exclusive-rights franchise tag on Brees. Under the rules of the exclusive franchise tag, Brees could not be contacted by other teams and remained exclusive property of the Saints.

That's correct, and he won his franchise tag appeal, he could have played under the tag and made more money last year and hit the market this year. But he didn't, he signed his contract....

Luda34 · 06-21-2013, 07:23 PM

I was thinking the samething and I believe your right we need to sign him before the seasons over.

vpheughan · 06-21-2013, 08:09 PM

Loyalty? No such thing anymore from either side. "When I say it's a game, you say it's a business. When I say it's a business, you say it's a game."

biloxi-indian · 06-21-2013, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

That's correct, and he won his franchise tag appeal, he could have played under the tag and made more money last year and hit the market this year. But he didn't, he signed his contract....

Oak, just for the record, there is no appeal with a franchise tag. He negotiated a long-term deal. If he had not negotiated a long-term deal he could have taken the average salary for QB or sit out a year.

Also, the franchise tag was worth approximately $14mm/yr...so his approximate $20mm/yr was a bit more. Just saying.

Btw; I don't disagree with your premise, just the facts.

TheOak · 06-21-2013, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by biloxi-indian

Oak, just for the record, there is no appeal with a franchise tag. He negotiated a long-term deal. If he had not negotiated a long-term deal he could have taken the average salary for QB or sit out a year.

Also, the franchise tag was worth approximately $14mm/yr...so his approximate $20mm/yr was a bit more. Just saying.

Btw; I don't disagree with your premise, just the facts.

You should maybe google a little more.... Search B&G..... Follow the Saints a little closer....

Here, I'll help you out.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...-vs-nfl-saints

"Just saying" .... Your wrong on all accounts. I didn't post premise, I posted facts.

Drews Franchise Tag after he won his appeal was worth 16m making his 2013 FT worth 23.5m for a two year total of 39,945,240.00 or let's just say 40 Million for ****z and grins.

RaginCajun83 · 06-21-2013, 11:56 PM

What me worry? Saints have Loomis, he'll make sure Jimmy gets paid and it doesn't put the Saints is salary cap hell for the next 5-8 years

06-21-2013, 01:21 PM	#11
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: I hate to bring this up, but... One year at a time my friend. If we get the ring, look for a wholesale buh-bye next year. If we don't many, including Jimmy"ll be around for a while. The Pats are going to need TEs this year and Jimmy's ours for this one.* *Providing he stays healthy.

06-21-2013, 02:26 PM	#12
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: I hate to bring this up, but... Originally Posted by SapperSaint I wish I could believe he isn't going to leave. Money talks folks. If the crappiest team throws guranteed millions at him, I think her leave "loyalty" at the door. Not bringing up old wounds; Drew left "Loyaty" at the front door of his house when it came to his contract/money. Drew stayed loyal, he just won the contract negotiation game. Sorry, I seem to be one of the few people that wouldn't pay his employer to work for him. Dollar values are moot, when negotiating employment you give nothing because they are not going to just give more to you than they have to. Which teams did he visit? What were his other offers? pumpkindriver and ProMallNinja like this.

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biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Re: I hate to bring this up, but... Originally Posted by TheOak Drew stayed loyal, he just won the contract negotiation game. Sorry, I seem to be one of the few people that wouldn't pay his employer to work for him. Dollar values are moot, when negotiating employment you give nothing because they are not going to just give more to you than they have to. Which teams did he visit? What were his other offers? Saints placed their exclusive-rights franchise tag on Brees. Under the rules of the exclusive franchise tag, Brees could not be contacted by other teams and remained exclusive property of the Saints.

06-21-2013, 06:24 PM	#14
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: I hate to bring this up, but... Worst case scenario - he gets franchised next season, approximately 6.5mil/year, then we could tag him again next year with escalator, allowing two years to find a replacement... The smart move: contract extension now, giving more money sooner and spreading the salary cap hit over more years with less of a dent per year... He gets wealthier faster and the Saints have a manageable salary impact... Plus you eliminate the "distraction"; and Drew won't let the big Mo affect his play, game...

06-21-2013, 06:37 PM	#15
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: I hate to bring this up, but... Originally Posted by biloxi-indian Saints placed their exclusive-rights franchise tag on Brees. Under the rules of the exclusive franchise tag, Brees could not be contacted by other teams and remained exclusive property of the Saints. That's correct, and he won his franchise tag appeal, he could have played under the tag and made more money last year and hit the market this year. But he didn't, he signed his contract....
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biloxi-indian Site Donor Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Southlake, TX Posts: 1,706	Re: I hate to bring this up, but... Originally Posted by TheOak That's correct, and he won his franchise tag appeal, he could have played under the tag and made more money last year and hit the market this year. But he didn't, he signed his contract.... Oak, just for the record, there is no appeal with a franchise tag. He negotiated a long-term deal. If he had not negotiated a long-term deal he could have taken the average salary for QB or sit out a year. Also, the franchise tag was worth approximately $14mm/yr...so his approximate $20mm/yr was a bit more. Just saying. Btw; I don't disagree with your premise, just the facts.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: I hate to bring this up, but... Originally Posted by biloxi-indian Oak, just for the record, there is no appeal with a franchise tag. He negotiated a long-term deal. If he had not negotiated a long-term deal he could have taken the average salary for QB or sit out a year. Also, the franchise tag was worth approximately $14mm/yr...so his approximate $20mm/yr was a bit more. Just saying. Btw; I don't disagree with your premise, just the facts. You should maybe google a little more.... Search B&G..... Follow the Saints a little closer.... Here, I'll help you out. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...-vs-nfl-saints "Just saying" .... Your wrong on all accounts. I didn't post premise, I posted facts. Drews Franchise Tag after he won his appeal was worth 16m making his 2013 FT worth 23.5m for a two year total of 39,945,240.00 or let's just say 40 Million for ****z and grins. ProMallNinja likes this.
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