Malcolm Jenkins: Saints D looks different from a “cultural standpoint”

halloween 65 · 06-22-2013, 12:05 PM

Other than the 2009 version of the Saints D(after 2006) our D stink. This season will be a 3/4 D and there is going to be spots on the field of concern, now in reality if Ryan could get us around a 19th rank D or better, we will be a contender, next season our D should get much,much better. I can live with a 19th rank D but last season was painful to watch, the Del Rio look last season would have went a long way this season I think.

westbankdaze · 06-22-2013, 07:11 PM

They key to our def is vaccaro and Lewis. We won in 2009 when we had good secondary play that made turnovers. No turnovers this season means no Super Bowl.

Seer1 · 06-23-2013, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Other than the 2009 version of the Saints D(after 2006) our D stink. This season will be a 3/4 D and there is going to be spots on the field of concern, now in reality if Ryan could get us around a 19th rank D or better, we will be a contender, next season our D should get much,much better. I can live with a 19th rank D but last season was painful to watch, the Del Rio look last season would have went a long way this season I think.

I do sometime wonder why they hired Spags over Del Rio.

dizzle88 · 06-23-2013, 04:02 AM

Originally Posted by Seer1

I do sometime wonder why they hired Spags over Del Rio.

Some people have the gift of blagging their way through interviews/meetings etc

Del Rio would have been the much better choice, lets hope RR is our guy!

TheOak · 06-23-2013, 07:52 AM

Originally Posted by ScottyRo

You got to love offseason hype. How in the world can someone say this year's D is clearly better than last year's? This year's D has yet to do diddly poo!

His comment really needs to be taken in context.

If the old adage "you practice like you play" stands true, Jenkins would know if this years defense looks clearly better than last years did. He actually alludes to that in the previous paragraph.

The most common comments last year about our defense were not playing with the fire from previous years, and not flocking to the ball.

TheOak · 06-23-2013, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Other than the 2009 version of the Saints D(after 2006) our D stink. This season will be a 3/4 D and there is going to be spots on the field of concern, now in reality if Ryan could get us around a 19th rank D or better, we will be a contender, next season our D should get much,much better. I can live with a 19th rank D but last season was painful to watch, the Del Rio look last season would have went a long way this season I think.

Heads up brother. Our 2009 defense was not good either. We were 25th.

Sharpers turnovers were what made that defense tolerable.

dizzle88 · 06-23-2013, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Heads up brother. Our 2009 defense was not good either. We were 25th.

Sharpers turnovers were what made that defense tolerable.

And the fact that teams would not throw deep knowing that Sharper was there, meaning that Porter and Greer had alot more opportunities to jump the short routes

Danno · 06-23-2013, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Heads up brother. Our 2009 defense was not good either. We were 25th.

Sharpers turnovers were what made that defense tolerable.

Which illustrates how only one player can change a defense.

I've never bought the argument that we had no talent on defense. We lacked a difference maker (maybe two), like a Sharper.

I'm hoping Vacarro, Lewis, Galette, Wilson, Hicks, or Jenkins step up and make a difference.

TheOak · 06-23-2013, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Which illustrates how only one player can change a defense.

I've never bought the argument that we had no talent on defense. We lacked a difference maker (maybe two), like a Sharper.

I'm hoping Vacarro, Lewis, Galette, Wilson, Hicks, or Jenkins step up and make a difference.

What if I told you Sharper would have been out of place as often as Jenkins or Harper with Spagnuolo's defense?

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What if I told you Sharper would have been burnt as often as Jenkins or Harper with Spagnuolo's defense that didn't get pressure on the QB.

TheOak · 06-23-2013, 03:56 PM

06-22-2013, 12:05 PM	#11
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Malcolm Jenkins: Saints D looks different from a “cultural standpoint” Other than the 2009 version of the Saints D(after 2006) our D stink. This season will be a 3/4 D and there is going to be spots on the field of concern, now in reality if Ryan could get us around a 19th rank D or better, we will be a contender, next season our D should get much,much better. I can live with a 19th rank D but last season was painful to watch, the Del Rio look last season would have went a long way this season I think.

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06-23-2013, 12:52 AM	#13
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Malcolm Jenkins: Saints D looks different from a “cultural standpoint” Originally Posted by halloween 65 Other than the 2009 version of the Saints D(after 2006) our D stink. This season will be a 3/4 D and there is going to be spots on the field of concern, now in reality if Ryan could get us around a 19th rank D or better, we will be a contender, next season our D should get much,much better. I can live with a 19th rank D but last season was painful to watch, the Del Rio look last season would have went a long way this season I think. I do sometime wonder why they hired Spags over Del Rio. hagan714 and dizzle88 like this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Malcolm Jenkins: Saints D looks different from a “cultural standpoint” Originally Posted by Seer1 I do sometime wonder why they hired Spags over Del Rio. Some people have the gift of blagging their way through interviews/meetings etc Del Rio would have been the much better choice, lets hope RR is our guy!

06-23-2013, 07:52 AM	#15
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Malcolm Jenkins: Saints D looks different from a “cultural standpoint” Originally Posted by ScottyRo You got to love offseason hype. How in the world can someone say this year's D is clearly better than last year's? This year's D has yet to do diddly poo! His comment really needs to be taken in context. If the old adage "you practice like you play" stands true, Jenkins would know if this years defense looks clearly better than last years did. He actually alludes to that in the previous paragraph. The most common comments last year about our defense were not playing with the fire from previous years, and not flocking to the ball.

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06-23-2013, 07:55 AM	#16
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Malcolm Jenkins: Saints D looks different from a “cultural standpoint” Originally Posted by halloween 65 Other than the 2009 version of the Saints D(after 2006) our D stink. This season will be a 3/4 D and there is going to be spots on the field of concern, now in reality if Ryan could get us around a 19th rank D or better, we will be a contender, next season our D should get much,much better. I can live with a 19th rank D but last season was painful to watch, the Del Rio look last season would have went a long way this season I think. Heads up brother. Our 2009 defense was not good either. We were 25th. Sharpers turnovers were what made that defense tolerable. dizzle88 likes this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Malcolm Jenkins: Saints D looks different from a “cultural standpoint” Originally Posted by TheOak Heads up brother. Our 2009 defense was not good either. We were 25th. Sharpers turnovers were what made that defense tolerable. And the fact that teams would not throw deep knowing that Sharper was there, meaning that Porter and Greer had alot more opportunities to jump the short routes

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Malcolm Jenkins: Saints D looks different from a “cultural standpoint” Originally Posted by TheOak Heads up brother. Our 2009 defense was not good either. We were 25th. Sharpers turnovers were what made that defense tolerable. Which illustrates how only one player can change a defense. I've never bought the argument that we had no talent on defense. We lacked a difference maker (maybe two), like a Sharper. I'm hoping Vacarro, Lewis, Galette, Wilson, Hicks, or Jenkins step up and make a difference. TheOak likes this.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Malcolm Jenkins: Saints D looks different from a “cultural standpoint” Originally Posted by Danno Which illustrates how only one player can change a defense. I've never bought the argument that we had no talent on defense. We lacked a difference maker (maybe two), like a Sharper. I'm hoping Vacarro, Lewis, Galette, Wilson, Hicks, or Jenkins step up and make a difference. What if I told you Sharper would have been out of place as often as Jenkins or Harper with Spagnuolo's defense? What if I told you Sharper would have been burnt as often as Jenkins or Harper with Spagnuolo's defense that didn't get pressure on the QB. Seer1 likes this.

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