Another angry former player

BrooksMustGo · 09-23-2004, 01:32 PM

http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index...3105226760.xml

Rams tight end Cam Cleeland had some harsh words for his former team and coach when speaking with St. Louis area reporters Wednesday.

"It's just I want to kick the living tar out of these guys," Cleeland said. "More than anything. Coach (Jim) Haslett, he's a coach. . . . If there's a chance for me to be on the sideline on a flat route, I don't know, let's just say he'll be looking for me probably. . . . As often as I get in there, I'm going to try to beat him (Haslett) up, do as best as I can to win this game."

I'm not so sure where the venom is coming from here. I can see how our guys could detest Haslett as a person and a coach. It just makes more sense if the player wasn't born injured like Cam.

:kerry:

saintfan · 09-23-2004, 02:23 PM

Funny. Did he ever actually play. This guy was a waste of a paycheck.

blackroses · 09-23-2004, 03:03 PM

This should be intresting, it just adds to the rivaly. I mean you think that bag of coins thrown at him in the guantlet pissed him off too lmao.
Hey the only area Turley can hurt us in is blocking really well for Faulk. Maybe he will throw one of helmets down the feild than stick his middle finger up, and walk off the feild. I have that game on tape bye the way the Jets vs Saints. Of course I was in jail so I didn\'t get the chance to see it live. I called my father and told him to tape it.

[Edited on 23/9/2004 by blackroses]

[Edited on 23/9/2004 by blackroses]

Cassady37 · 09-23-2004, 06:14 PM

I always wondered why so many ex-players hate Haslett that much. It\'d be one thing if it was just a couple but it\'s like everyone that leaves hates him. It\'s gotta make you go hmmmmm?

CheramieIII · 09-23-2004, 09:36 PM

I don\'t think we hurt him as much as opposing teams did when the played us. Hell the guy was never on the field. He\'s lucky he lasted as long as he did.

BrooksMustGo · 09-23-2004, 09:49 PM

I\'d laugh out loud if Cam did hammer Haslett while going out of bounds.

The flip side is that with Cam, he\'d probably blow an achilles stepping over Haslett\'s clipboard to get back on the field.

CheramieIII · 09-23-2004, 09:56 PM

hahahahahahahahahahaha. LOL

:rollinglaugh:

JKool · 09-24-2004, 01:59 AM

This quote is at best incomplete and stupid. If Cam Cleeland detests Haz, it would be nice of him to say why, rather than simply saying he hates him. I don\'t think you can take anything from this other than Cleeland likes to threaten guys on the sideline with no pads on - what a tough guy... bah.

WhoDat · 09-24-2004, 08:39 AM

This has a Mickey Mouse ring to it, meaning players seem to alway bad mouth the org. Is that just a normal thing or is the org to blame for some of it. Hmmm...................

Gator - you beat me to it man. I\'d LOVE to hear what Danno and Saintfan have to say about this. I\'m sure Cam is just another crazy-azz cancer like Turley and the rest... or wait, every coach has players talk about taking them out on the sidelines, huh? LOL

BrooksMustGo · 09-24-2004, 09:45 AM

Taken from the same article.

When asked to compare the mindset of the two organizations, Cleeland said they were completely different.

\"I mean, you have a car salesman running the team (in New Orleans),\" Cleeland said. \"Compared to people that are world-renowned owners, people that are extreme corporate leaders. They know how to run organizations. They know the type of people to bring in here. Down there, they just don\'t have the right people.\"

It reads a little like; Benson doesn\'t know how to find good leadership/management to run the team and Haslett is seriously unfit for the job. Whatever Cam is saying about Haslett, it is obviously a personal thing between them. I\'m not going to jump on the Mickey Mouse organization bandwagon, but I would agree that Mr Benson is probably to content to be mediocre and too trusting when Haslett is telling him everything is fine, just a few little adjustments and we\'re headed to the superbowl.

Haslett is like the great OZ--pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, freedom is on the march, blah, blah, blah.

:kerry:

09-23-2004, 01:32 PM	#1
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	Another angry former player http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index...3105226760.xml Rams tight end Cam Cleeland had some harsh words for his former team and coach when speaking with St. Louis area reporters Wednesday. "It's just I want to kick the living tar out of these guys," Cleeland said. "More than anything. Coach (Jim) Haslett, he's a coach. . . . If there's a chance for me to be on the sideline on a flat route, I don't know, let's just say he'll be looking for me probably. . . . As often as I get in there, I'm going to try to beat him (Haslett) up, do as best as I can to win this game." I'm not so sure where the venom is coming from here. I can see how our guys could detest Haslett as a person and a coach. It just makes more sense if the player wasn't born injured like Cam. :kerry:

09-23-2004, 02:23 PM	#2
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Another angry former player Funny. Did he ever actually play. This guy was a waste of a paycheck.

09-23-2004, 03:03 PM	#3
blackroses Registered Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 85	Another angry former player This should be intresting, it just adds to the rivaly. I mean you think that bag of coins thrown at him in the guantlet pissed him off too lmao. Hey the only area Turley can hurt us in is blocking really well for Faulk. Maybe he will throw one of helmets down the feild than stick his middle finger up, and walk off the feild. I have that game on tape bye the way the Jets vs Saints. Of course I was in jail so I didn\'t get the chance to see it live. I called my father and told him to tape it. [Edited on 23/9/2004 by blackroses] [Edited on 23/9/2004 by blackroses]
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09-23-2004, 06:14 PM	#4
Cassady37 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Kilgore, Texas Posts: 337	Another angry former player I always wondered why so many ex-players hate Haslett that much. It\'d be one thing if it was just a couple but it\'s like everyone that leaves hates him. It\'s gotta make you go hmmmmm?

09-23-2004, 09:36 PM	#5
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,480 Blog Entries: 3	Another angry former player I don\'t think we hurt him as much as opposing teams did when the played us. Hell the guy was never on the field. He\'s lucky he lasted as long as he did.

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09-23-2004, 09:49 PM	#6
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	Another angry former player I\'d laugh out loud if Cam did hammer Haslett while going out of bounds. The flip side is that with Cam, he\'d probably blow an achilles stepping over Haslett\'s clipboard to get back on the field.

09-23-2004, 09:56 PM	#7
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,480 Blog Entries: 3	Another angry former player hahahahahahahahahahaha. LOL :rollinglaugh:

09-24-2004, 01:59 AM	#8
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	Another angry former player This quote is at best incomplete and stupid. If Cam Cleeland detests Haz, it would be nice of him to say why, rather than simply saying he hates him. I don\'t think you can take anything from this other than Cleeland likes to threaten guys on the sideline with no pads on - what a tough guy... bah.

09-24-2004, 08:39 AM	#9
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Another angry former player This has a Mickey Mouse ring to it, meaning players seem to alway bad mouth the org. Is that just a normal thing or is the org to blame for some of it. Hmmm................... Gator - you beat me to it man. I\'d LOVE to hear what Danno and Saintfan have to say about this. I\'m sure Cam is just another crazy-azz cancer like Turley and the rest... or wait, every coach has players talk about taking them out on the sidelines, huh? LOL
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09-24-2004, 09:45 AM	#10
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	Another angry former player Taken from the same article. When asked to compare the mindset of the two organizations, Cleeland said they were completely different. \"I mean, you have a car salesman running the team (in New Orleans),\" Cleeland said. \"Compared to people that are world-renowned owners, people that are extreme corporate leaders. They know how to run organizations. They know the type of people to bring in here. Down there, they just don\'t have the right people.\" It reads a little like; Benson doesn\'t know how to find good leadership/management to run the team and Haslett is seriously unfit for the job. Whatever Cam is saying about Haslett, it is obviously a personal thing between them. I\'m not going to jump on the Mickey Mouse organization bandwagon, but I would agree that Mr Benson is probably to content to be mediocre and too trusting when Haslett is telling him everything is fine, just a few little adjustments and we\'re headed to the superbowl. Haslett is like the great OZ--pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, freedom is on the march, blah, blah, blah. :kerry:
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