Which Zach Strief Will Show Up in 2013?

06-29-2013, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

PFF Grades for OT's (both left and right)

2012 - 49th in the NFL (Groin injury all season)
2011 - 8th best in the NFL

From PFF...

Doesn't sound like "garbage" to me.

Those rankings mean about as much to me as a Madden rating. Didn't they say Harper and Jenkins are the two worse safeties in the league? They're not though. Refuting my opinion with an article of another guys opinion isn't really going to work. I'm trying to find a statistic for the amount of hurries he allowed. Give me a second to research.

All in all, he needs to be a back up.

Rugby Saint II · 06-29-2013, 03:51 PM

This is a fun discussion. Still, I would be happier to see him in a back up role.

|Mitch| · 06-29-2013, 06:14 PM

I'll trust the coaches over fans who think he needs to be a back-up. They have more knowledge/insight than any fan...

Halo · 06-29-2013, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Those rankings mean about as much to me as a Madden rating.

Wait, what's wrong with Madden rankings?
On Madden, I'm 6'0 tall, athletic build and popular with the ladies.

let me check........ DOH!!!!!

Danno · 06-29-2013, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Those rankings mean about as much to me as a Madden rating. Didn't they say Harper and Jenkins are the two worse safeties in the league? They're not though. Refuting my opinion with an article of another guys opinion isn't really going to work. I'm trying to find a statistic for the amount of hurries he allowed. Give me a second to research.

All in all, he needs to be a back up.

Well it appears your opinion is shared by very few people.
He isn't garbage. At worst he's a mediocre serviceable RT. The fact that he grades out well as a starter simply confirms you are most likely wrong. He isn't garbage.

rezburna · 06-29-2013, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Well it appears your opinion is shared by very few people.
He isn't garbage. At worst he's a mediocre serviceable RT. The fact that he grades out well as a starter simply confirms you are most likely wrong. He isn't garbage.

I'd expect no less. The opinion on Saints players aren't exactly unbiased on this forum. He's the worse of all 5 starters, and in my opinion should have never been a starter. He was thrust into the role by the loss of Stinchcomb. I never have believed in him. I found some statistics on him, he was remarkably horrible last year. Groin or not. I respect the fact you think he's good, but i think he's poo and just serviceable at very best.

papz · 06-30-2013, 02:06 AM

Roll back the clock and I can guarantee no one would be knocking Strief... people were clamoring for him to replace Stinchcomb because he shut down Julius Peppers when he was Carolina.

Being fickle is fickle. Being spoiled is spoiled.

rezburna · 06-30-2013, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Roll back the clock and I can guarantee no one would be knocking Strief... people were clamoring for him to replace Stinchcomb because he shut down Julius Peppers when he was Carolina.

Being fickle is fickle. Being spoiled is spoiled.

Clock only go forward young papz. Its what have you done for me lately.

iceshack149 · 06-30-2013, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Clock only go forward young papz. Its what have you done for me lately.

Garbage or "poo" are way out of whack. He was solid when healthy. He will be competitive in this years camp completion. Maybe he gets beat out by Brown but he will be considered by the coaches no question. That's not garbage.

rezburna · 06-30-2013, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Garbage or "poo" are way out of whack. He was solid when healthy. He will be competitive in this years camp completion. Maybe he gets beat out by Brown but he will be considered by the coaches no question. That's not garbage.

Fine! He can be solid. But the moment he's getting beat by another speed rusher I'm coming on this forum and downgrading him to official poo butt status and none of you better rebuttal!

06-29-2013, 02:47 PM	#21
Threaded by rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by Danno PFF Grades for OT's (both left and right) 2012 - 49th in the NFL (Groin injury all season) 2011 - 8th best in the NFL From PFF... Doesn't sound like "garbage" to me. Those rankings mean about as much to me as a Madden rating. Didn't they say Harper and Jenkins are the two worse safeties in the league? They're not though. Refuting my opinion with an article of another guys opinion isn't really going to work. I'm trying to find a statistic for the amount of hurries he allowed. Give me a second to research. All in all, he needs to be a back up.
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06-29-2013, 03:51 PM	#22
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Which Zach Strief Will Show Up in 2013? This is a fun discussion. Still, I would be happier to see him in a back up role. jeanpierre likes this.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Which Zach Strief Will Show Up in 2013? I'll trust the coaches over fans who think he needs to be a back-up. They have more knowledge/insight than any fan... RockyMountainSaint and Boutte like this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Which Zach Strief Will Show Up in 2013? Originally Posted by rezburna Those rankings mean about as much to me as a Madden rating. Didn't they say Harper and Jenkins are the two worse safeties in the league? They're not though. Refuting my opinion with an article of another guys opinion isn't really going to work. I'm trying to find a statistic for the amount of hurries he allowed. Give me a second to research. All in all, he needs to be a back up. Well it appears your opinion is shared by very few people. He isn't garbage. At worst he's a mediocre serviceable RT. The fact that he grades out well as a starter simply confirms you are most likely wrong. He isn't garbage. jeanpierre likes this.

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06-29-2013, 11:29 PM	#26
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Which Zach Strief Will Show Up in 2013? Originally Posted by Danno Well it appears your opinion is shared by very few people. He isn't garbage. At worst he's a mediocre serviceable RT. The fact that he grades out well as a starter simply confirms you are most likely wrong. He isn't garbage. I'd expect no less. The opinion on Saints players aren't exactly unbiased on this forum. He's the worse of all 5 starters, and in my opinion should have never been a starter. He was thrust into the role by the loss of Stinchcomb. I never have believed in him. I found some statistics on him, he was remarkably horrible last year. Groin or not. I respect the fact you think he's good, but i think he's poo and just serviceable at very best.

06-30-2013, 02:06 AM	#27
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: Which Zach Strief Will Show Up in 2013? Roll back the clock and I can guarantee no one would be knocking Strief... people were clamoring for him to replace Stinchcomb because he shut down Julius Peppers when he was Carolina. Being fickle is fickle. Being spoiled is spoiled. Boutte and jeanpierre like this.

06-30-2013, 12:47 PM	#28
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Which Zach Strief Will Show Up in 2013? Originally Posted by papz Roll back the clock and I can guarantee no one would be knocking Strief... people were clamoring for him to replace Stinchcomb because he shut down Julius Peppers when he was Carolina. Being fickle is fickle. Being spoiled is spoiled. Clock only go forward young papz. Its what have you done for me lately.

06-30-2013, 02:09 PM	#29
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,257 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Which Zach Strief Will Show Up in 2013? Originally Posted by rezburna Clock only go forward young papz. Its what have you done for me lately. Garbage or "poo" are way out of whack. He was solid when healthy. He will be competitive in this years camp completion. Maybe he gets beat out by Brown but he will be considered by the coaches no question. That's not garbage. papz likes this.

06-30-2013, 02:18 PM	#30
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Which Zach Strief Will Show Up in 2013? Originally Posted by iceshack149 Garbage or "poo" are way out of whack. He was solid when healthy. He will be competitive in this years camp completion. Maybe he gets beat out by Brown but he will be considered by the coaches no question. That's not garbage. Fine! He can be solid. But the moment he's getting beat by another speed rusher I'm coming on this forum and downgrading him to official poo butt status and none of you better rebuttal!

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