The All Time Worst Saints Players in Team History (Offense, Part 1)

MatthewT · 07-08-2013, 11:52 AM

Richard Todd is another one who needs consideration. I do agree however that Heath Shuler was worse.

QBREES9 · 07-09-2013, 01:11 AM

Heath Shuler,,,, Man did i love him college. I wanted him to be great.

Jack Vegas · 07-09-2013, 02:12 AM

Fred Thomas was only bad for one season at the end of his career, when his legs gave out because he was like 34 years old. He was solid to very good otherwise and a bright spot on some really bad defenses.

I think it's really unfair that he's remembered as a bad player because in fact the exact opposite was true. Especially considering he spent most of his career surrounded by trash like Josh Bullocks, Tebucky Jones, Jason Craft, etc.

dizzle88 · 07-09-2013, 03:06 AM

Jason craft, kevin kaesviharn, josh bullocks...I'm starting to get really bad flashbacks of their defensive play now

Rugby Saint II · 07-09-2013, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

he was zone. Tampa 2 under the colts to be exact.

You're right.

Mind melt down......

rezburna · 07-09-2013, 09:31 PM

When was the last time our defense was truly good? Our personnel was worse then it is now during our Super Bowl run. Sharper and Gregg deserve so much credit.

TheGambler · 07-09-2013, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by stickman

From Deadspin list: 53. Curtis DeLoatch; cornerback; Giants, Saints, Panthers; 2004-07: Save for covering and tackling, awfully good.

They forgot to mention that he recovered a Steve Gleason blocked punt and scored a touchdown.

Exactly...........now granted, I don't know (or care) what he did with the Giants or Panthers.....but what did he do with the Saints other than special teams? I'm guessing he wasn't a world-beater (aside from that one epic moment) since he only was with the Saints for 1 season....but did I miss any major moments on special teams where he looked terrible ?

I guess what I'm asking is...what would have put him on the "worst" list ? Decent or average, sure, but worst ?

Luda34 · 07-10-2013, 02:50 AM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

I was going to say Cam Cleeland but that man had some serious injuries that he still has not recovered from. You can do a search and read about it, kinda sad because he had one solid season then nothing.

My vote is for Alex Molden. All the talent in the world but would play a mile off of WR's. I wanted to close line him more than I wanted the Saints to win the game. Never could figure him out.

I have agree Cleeland was suppose to be a solid TE and was a injure nightmare and Molden was just sorry.

TheOak · 07-10-2013, 11:01 AM

With out looking at stats, my keyboard wants to add Martine Gramattica to the list.

vpheughan · 07-10-2013, 11:53 AM

Don't forget that Cleeland was almost blinded in that hazing incident.

07-08-2013, 11:52 AM	#11
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: The All Time Worst Saints Players in Team History (Offense, Part 1) Richard Todd is another one who needs consideration. I do agree however that Heath Shuler was worse.

07-09-2013, 01:11 AM	#12
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: The All Time Worst Saints Players in Team History (Offense, Part 1) Heath Shuler,,,, Man did i love him college. I wanted him to be great.

07-09-2013, 02:12 AM	#13
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: The All Time Worst Saints Players in Team History (Offense, Part 1) Fred Thomas was only bad for one season at the end of his career, when his legs gave out because he was like 34 years old. He was solid to very good otherwise and a bright spot on some really bad defenses. I think it's really unfair that he's remembered as a bad player because in fact the exact opposite was true. Especially considering he spent most of his career surrounded by trash like Josh Bullocks, Tebucky Jones, Jason Craft, etc.
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07-09-2013, 03:06 AM	#14
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: The All Time Worst Saints Players in Team History (Offense, Part 1) Jason craft, kevin kaesviharn, josh bullocks...I'm starting to get really bad flashbacks of their defensive play now

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: The All Time Worst Saints Players in Team History (Offense, Part 1) When was the last time our defense was truly good? Our personnel was worse then it is now during our Super Bowl run. Sharper and Gregg deserve so much credit.

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TheGambler 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 610	Re: The All Time Worst Saints Players in Team History (Offense, Part 1) Originally Posted by stickman From Deadspin list: 53. Curtis DeLoatch; cornerback; Giants, Saints, Panthers; 2004-07: Save for covering and tackling, awfully good. They forgot to mention that he recovered a Steve Gleason blocked punt and scored a touchdown. Exactly...........now granted, I don't know (or care) what he did with the Giants or Panthers.....but what did he do with the Saints other than special teams? I'm guessing he wasn't a world-beater (aside from that one epic moment) since he only was with the Saints for 1 season....but did I miss any major moments on special teams where he looked terrible ? I guess what I'm asking is...what would have put him on the "worst" list ? Decent or average, sure, but worst ?
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07-10-2013, 02:50 AM	#18
Luda34 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Houston Tx Posts: 1,219	Re: The All Time Worst Saints Players in Team History (Offense, Part 1) Originally Posted by Beastmode I was going to say Cam Cleeland but that man had some serious injuries that he still has not recovered from. You can do a search and read about it, kinda sad because he had one solid season then nothing. My vote is for Alex Molden. All the talent in the world but would play a mile off of WR's. I wanted to close line him more than I wanted the Saints to win the game. Never could figure him out. I have agree Cleeland was suppose to be a solid TE and was a injure nightmare and Molden was just sorry.

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