Mark Ingram Is Most Important Saints RB To Saints 2013 Success

TheOak · 07-15-2013, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

If he would live up to the hype then everything will work itself out.

He'd get on the field more, more carries, more passes, more plays using him as a decoy.

He has earned 3rd string...

Now that I buy, more plays on the field where he doesn't touch the ball would help him. Or put him and PT in the back field and run a screen to him instead of PT

ProMallNinja · 07-15-2013, 11:38 AM

More sensationalism from a news media outlet....what a shocker. These guys will vomit anything into print this time of the year to get a buck. I think the importance of Ingram's success was quite evident when he was taken in the first round of the draft. Now the importance of his success is directly relative to him keeping his job. We've made it clear that we can find VERY "serviceable" RBs quite easily. Ingram was suppose to be special, and he hasn't shown the ability to be that consistently. Period.

Boutte · 07-15-2013, 03:24 PM

There are a lot of excuses for Ingram that have been thrown around by his fans and some are valid. I do think he'd be more effective if defenses didn't know what was going to happen when he comes into the game. But the fact is that he's been outperformed by his fellow RBs. Pierre Thomas and Darren Sproles are both very special and Chris Ivory is a freak of nature. I think Ivory's departure means that Ingram is going to be seeing a lot more chances to prove his worth. So far he's shown flashes but now it's time to prove he too his special.

dizzle88 · 07-15-2013, 03:43 PM

I wouldnt say he is the most important reason to our success, but we need him to produce in his role just like everybody else

xan · 07-15-2013, 03:45 PM

Ingram will be important only if --- IF--- he learns how to pick up the blitz and run a screen pass. He's 3rd on the depth chart on those, making him 3rd most important RB.

dizzle88 · 07-15-2013, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by xan

Ingram will be important only if --- IF--- he learns how to pick up the blitz and run a screen pass. He's 3rd on the depth chart on those, making him 3rd most important RB.

In all fairness, he picks up the blitz very well and they never throw a screen pass to him

Everytime he was in the game last season it was a run up the gut

AsylumGuido · 07-15-2013, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

In all fairness, he picks up the blitz very well and they never throw a screen pass to him

Everytime he was in the game last season it was a run up the gut

This is true. One thing we saw in OT's and minicamp was that he was involved in the screen game fairly heavily.

Danno · 07-15-2013, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

This is true. One thing we saw in OT's and minicamp was that he was involved in the screen game fairly heavily.

And we probably would have seen that last year if Payton was around.

In 2011, Payton admitted he didn't use Ingram to his full potential. He was probably just bringing him along slowly. And oh yeah, we had that lock-out thing going on too. No OTA's and a shortened TC.

In 2012, no Payton.

I think we'll see a different Ingram this year. The one Payton envisioned when we drafted him.

rezburna · 07-15-2013, 05:33 PM

Not utilizing him right.

Beastmode · 07-16-2013, 12:25 AM

When players are made to do things outside of what they excelled at in college it often equals failure. The NFL loves to do this...hey let's see what happens if we make a RB who was not a north south runner fill that roll.

I understand sometimes they have to do it but when there is a better viable option it makes no sense. Use them to their strengths as often as you can. That's what really bothered me about last season. We didn't have the OL or RB to do that consistently but they did it anyway.

07-15-2013, 12:31 PM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: Mark Ingram Is Most Important Saints RB To Saints 2013 Success Originally Posted by Euphoria If he would live up to the hype then everything will work itself out. He'd get on the field more, more carries, more passes, more plays using him as a decoy. He has earned 3rd string... Now that I buy, more plays on the field where he doesn't touch the ball would help him. Or put him and PT in the back field and run a screen to him instead of PT

07-15-2013, 11:38 AM	#2
ProMallNinja Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: MS Gulf Coast Posts: 242	Re: Mark Ingram Is Most Important Saints RB To Saints 2013 Success More sensationalism from a news media outlet....what a shocker. These guys will vomit anything into print this time of the year to get a buck. I think the importance of Ingram's success was quite evident when he was taken in the first round of the draft. Now the importance of his success is directly relative to him keeping his job. We've made it clear that we can find VERY "serviceable" RBs quite easily. Ingram was suppose to be special, and he hasn't shown the ability to be that consistently. Period. SaintnDE likes this.

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Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: Mark Ingram Is Most Important Saints RB To Saints 2013 Success There are a lot of excuses for Ingram that have been thrown around by his fans and some are valid. I do think he'd be more effective if defenses didn't know what was going to happen when he comes into the game. But the fact is that he's been outperformed by his fellow RBs. Pierre Thomas and Darren Sproles are both very special and Chris Ivory is a freak of nature. I think Ivory's departure means that Ingram is going to be seeing a lot more chances to prove his worth. So far he's shown flashes but now it's time to prove he too his special. Joker likes this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Mark Ingram Is Most Important Saints RB To Saints 2013 Success I wouldnt say he is the most important reason to our success, but we need him to produce in his role just like everybody else

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xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,372 Blog Entries: 34	Re: Mark Ingram Is Most Important Saints RB To Saints 2013 Success Ingram will be important only if --- IF--- he learns how to pick up the blitz and run a screen pass. He's 3rd on the depth chart on those, making him 3rd most important RB.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Mark Ingram Is Most Important Saints RB To Saints 2013 Success Originally Posted by xan Ingram will be important only if --- IF--- he learns how to pick up the blitz and run a screen pass. He's 3rd on the depth chart on those, making him 3rd most important RB. In all fairness, he picks up the blitz very well and they never throw a screen pass to him Everytime he was in the game last season it was a run up the gut

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Mark Ingram Is Most Important Saints RB To Saints 2013 Success Originally Posted by dizzle88 In all fairness, he picks up the blitz very well and they never throw a screen pass to him Everytime he was in the game last season it was a run up the gut This is true. One thing we saw in OT's and minicamp was that he was involved in the screen game fairly heavily. Danno and spkb25 like this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: Mark Ingram Is Most Important Saints RB To Saints 2013 Success Originally Posted by AsylumGuido This is true. One thing we saw in OT's and minicamp was that he was involved in the screen game fairly heavily. And we probably would have seen that last year if Payton was around. In 2011, Payton admitted he didn't use Ingram to his full potential. He was probably just bringing him along slowly. And oh yeah, we had that lock-out thing going on too. No OTA's and a shortened TC. In 2012, no Payton. I think we'll see a different Ingram this year. The one Payton envisioned when we drafted him. spkb25, foreverfan and Beastmode like this.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: Mark Ingram Is Most Important Saints RB To Saints 2013 Success Not utilizing him right. Danno likes this.

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Mark Ingram Is Most Important Saints RB To Saints 2013 Success When players are made to do things outside of what they excelled at in college it often equals failure. The NFL loves to do this...hey let's see what happens if we make a RB who was not a north south runner fill that roll. I understand sometimes they have to do it but when there is a better viable option it makes no sense. Use them to their strengths as often as you can. That's what really bothered me about last season. We didn't have the OL or RB to do that consistently but they did it anyway.
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