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07-23-2013, 07:51 PM | #1 |
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Gone are some of the mainstays on the New Orleans Saints defensive line after the switch to the 3-4 scheme in the offseason. Former first rounder Sedrick Ellis is now with the Chicago Bears, while veteran defensive end Will Smith will line up at linebacker this season.
General manager Mickey Loomis seemed to give eight year veteran Brodrick Bunkley the initial nod at nose tackle before the draft, but all bets seem to be off after the Saints trained up to get John Jenkins, a 6-4, 346 pound nose tackle out of Georgia. Jenkins dwarfs Bunkley, who stands at 6-2 and weighs 306 pounds, but Bunkley, who is entering his second year with the Saints, has the edge in experience. Bunkley comes off an underwhelming first year with the Saints where he had 23 tackles and 2.5 sacks in the 4-3 scheme. Akiem Hicks is another player that could be in the mix as a backup nose tackle, while still manning the ends. At end, Cam Jordan has a lock on one of the starting spots after a great sophomore season where he started all 16 games, registering 67 tackles and a team-high eight sacks. He also played in the 3-4 in college, so he'll be returning to a familiar scheme. On the other side, veteran end Kenyon Coleman is a likely candidate to earn a starting position when the season begins. Coleman, who played for defensive coordinator Rob Ryan in Dallas last season, is the most veteran member on the line with 12 years of experience. Unofficial depth chart Defensive end No. Player Ht. Wt. Age Exp. College 94 Cam Jordan 6-4 287 24 3 California 99 Kenyon Coleman 6-5 293 34 12 UCLA 76 Akiem Hicks 6-5 324 23 2 Regina 96 Tom Johnson 6-3 288 28 3 Southern Mississippi 74 Glenn Foster 6-4 285 23 R Illinois 97 Jay Richardson 6-6 280 29 5 Ohio State Defensive tackle No. Player Ht. Wt. Age Exp. College 77 Brodrick Bunkley 6-2 306 29 8 Florida State 76 Akiem Hicks 6-5 324 23 2 Regina 92 John Jenkins 6-3 359 24 R Georgia 96 Tom Johnson 6-3 288 28 3 Southern Mississippi 75 Tyrunn Walker 6-3 294 23 2 Tulsa Analysis With the shakeup in the line, the young unit has a lot of upside, particularly where 23-year-old Hicks is concerned. The second year player can slide into either role, whether playing in the center at nose tackle, or lining up on the end A third round pick last season, Hicks spent most of his time as a backup. But Loomis raved about his potential when asked in the offseason. Expect Hicks to have a much bigger role this time around. Jordan, now entering his third season, is another player who has limitless potential. Jordan was one of the bright spots on the defense last season, and with a success as a run defender, should continue to maintain that pace even with the switch in schemes. The Saints will also have veteran experience with Bunkley manning the middle and Coleman likely to earn a starting spot at end. Coleman was a part-time starter for the Cowboys, but he knows Ryan well after playing under him during stints with the Cowboys and Browns. It's likely many of the players will platoon with others as they attempt to make the first year transition into the new scheme. Hicks will play both sides, but veteran reserve Tom Johnson is another that could fit in at tackle or end, as could young reserve Tyrunn Walker. New Orleans Saints positional analysis: defensive line | NOLA.com |
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07-23-2013, 08:50 PM | #2 |
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Re: New Orleans Saints positional analysis: defensive line
Sooooo, is Mickey setting the depth chart now?
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07-24-2013, 07:39 AM | #3 |
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I am tickled to death to finally see some new blood there. Let's hope it all works out.
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Very good observation. Many are worried about getting a pass rush and rightly so, but with Wilson and Galette standing up that shouldn't be a problem. We have plenty of guys with off the edge speed.
Lofton isn't strong in coverage. Vilma and Hawthorne are (for ILB's), but we don't know much about the rest of them, especially the new kids. How will our LB's do against TE's and RB's? One things for sure, we will find out very quickly. |
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Re: New Orleans Saints positional analysis: defensive line
Maybe drafting Vacarro had alot to do with taking coverage responsibilities away from our OLB's?
Possibly let the OLB's blitz more often, keep Vacarro in the slot and play single high safety? If not, then our OLB's are going to be the most watched group out of them all, for both pass rushing and coverage |
07-24-2013, 09:45 AM | #7 |
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DE looks to pretty good
94 Cam Jordan 6-4 287 24 3 California 99 Kenyon Coleman 6-5 293 34 12 UCLA I am expecting a backup to step up and push for more time 76 Akiem Hicks 6-5 324 23 2 Regina but depth is an issue my book i pray for a player to emerge 96 Tom Johnson 6-3 288 28 3 Southern Mississippi 74 Glenn Foster 6-4 285 23 R Illinois 97 Jay Richardson 6-6 280 29 5 Ohio State Jay would be the biggest pay off but has the change in address worked? Defensive tackle oh many am i worried 77 Brodrick Bunkley 6-2 306 29 8 Florida State 92 John Jenkins 6-3 359 24 R Georgia JJ by season end will be the start and Bunk will back him up Depth? where? 96 Tom Johnson 6-3 288 28 3 Southern Mississippi 75 Tyrunn Walker 6-3 294 23 2 Tulsa not enough sand in the pants for these light heavy weights. but one may surprise us and work out ok I see teams planning a lot draws against this group and expecting big chunks of yardage 2014 nfl draft will be defense once again |
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07-24-2013, 10:26 AM | #9 |
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Re: New Orleans Saints positional analysis: defensive line
From what I gathered from a few Cowboy games last year, Ryan gives a lot of responsibility and puts a lot of faith in his secondary when it comes to coverage. When Sean Lee was healthy, he did a good bit of roaming around in the middle making plays both in the passing and running game. Hopefully Vilma/Hawthorne will be up to that take given what Lofton specializes in. We also need a solid year from Jenkins and Vaccaro. Ryan didn't have any issues throwing Claiborne in the fire last season and I don't expect him to take it easy on Vaccaro either... whether it's manning up against a slot receiver, TE, or patrolling center field.
Remember folks, DeMarcus Ware and Anthony Spencer weren't covering anyone. Our OLB's will be rushing the passer. |
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