Five Saints will draw attention when camp opens

07-25-2013, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

The good news is that Jack LB's rarely ever cover, and hopefully Martez moves inside.

who would you slide outside with Wilson taking ILB?

homerj07 · 07-25-2013, 06:41 PM

If our D can just improve 10 or 11 spots & do MUCH better with turnovers we will be awesome this season!!

Danno · 07-25-2013, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

who would you slide outside with Wilson taking ILB?

Maybe Hawthorne, or one of the rookies.

I think Mike is probably his ideal position, but if the goal is to put the best 4 LB's out there he may be forced to play SAM with Lofton and Vilma inside. I can't see sliding Lofton or Vilma outside.

I think Wilson can be a very good SAM, but an excellent MIKE.

Danno · 07-25-2013, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by homerj07

If our D can just improve 10 or 11 spots & do MUCH better with turnovers we will be awesome this season!!

Shouldn't be hard. Thats what we had in 2011 and we have more talent now.

hagan714 · 07-25-2013, 09:28 PM

i think Butler injury has put Wilson at OLB for the season. He can play ILB without to much adjustment because he played it a lot in college.

Now Jr is the big question mark and his play or lack will effect the entire line up at the second level. we all know he can rush and is pretty darn good at it. He has major issue in run support and we have yet to see him try to do pass coverage. he definitely has his work cut out for him and if he does step it up it will be huge. So huge i would say he would be defensive player of the year for the saints.

If not the only other real options is Hawthorne and Vilma filling the OLB spot.

Butler being out really puts the heat on Jr. more than Wilson

blackangold · 07-25-2013, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Maybe Hawthorne, or one of the rookies.

I think Mike is probably his ideal position, but if the goal is to put the best 4 LB's out there he may be forced to play SAM with Lofton and Vilma inside. I can't see sliding Lofton or Vilma outside.

I think Wilson can be a very good SAM, but an excellent MIKE.

I agree, Wilson would be great paid with Lofton but I don't like the idea of anyone else on the team playing SAM yet... If Butler had not gone down it would be a different story. As it stands Wilson is the only viable option at SAM with some proven success as a pass rusher, but we know Hawthorne can play ILB.

seems like IR always snags someone promising from us before the season...

Danno · 07-26-2013, 04:04 PM

#Saints Will Smith was actually working at Sam today with Galette at Jack. They'll try some mixing and matching there.

Will Smith at SAM? Interesting.

TheOak · 07-26-2013, 05:55 PM

What's big John Jenkins up to?

ChrisXVI · 07-26-2013, 06:47 PM

Trying Will Smith at Sam was probably a very quick experiment. Considering we're all skeptical of his ability to play the Jack LB spot where he'd mostly pass rush and do very little in coverage... I think Coach probably got his answer pretty quick trying him at the Sam where he would play tons in coverage; At least I hope so.

Danno · 07-26-2013, 06:58 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Trying Will Smith at Sam was probably a very quick experiment. Considering we're all skeptical of his ability to play the Jack LB spot where he'd mostly pass rush and do very little in coverage... I think Coach probably got his answer pretty quick trying him at the Sam where he would play tons in coverage; At least I hope so.

In a 1-gap 3-4...The SOLB will be in charge of the outside of the TE on running plays and will normally either blitz or be manned up on the TE in pass plays.

Smith has 2 of those 3 covered. Not sure how long he can cover a TE before exposure.

07-25-2013, 06:39 PM	#11
Threaded by blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by Danno The good news is that Jack LB's rarely ever cover, and hopefully Martez moves inside. who would you slide outside with Wilson taking ILB? hagan714 likes this.
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homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Re: Five Saints will draw attention when camp opens If our D can just improve 10 or 11 spots & do MUCH better with turnovers we will be awesome this season!! \|Mitch\| likes this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Five Saints will draw attention when camp opens Originally Posted by blackangold who would you slide outside with Wilson taking ILB? Maybe Hawthorne, or one of the rookies. I think Mike is probably his ideal position, but if the goal is to put the best 4 LB's out there he may be forced to play SAM with Lofton and Vilma inside. I can't see sliding Lofton or Vilma outside. I think Wilson can be a very good SAM, but an excellent MIKE. FinSaint likes this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Five Saints will draw attention when camp opens Originally Posted by homerj07 If our D can just improve 10 or 11 spots & do MUCH better with turnovers we will be awesome this season!! Shouldn't be hard. Thats what we had in 2011 and we have more talent now.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Five Saints will draw attention when camp opens i think Butler injury has put Wilson at OLB for the season. He can play ILB without to much adjustment because he played it a lot in college. Now Jr is the big question mark and his play or lack will effect the entire line up at the second level. we all know he can rush and is pretty darn good at it. He has major issue in run support and we have yet to see him try to do pass coverage. he definitely has his work cut out for him and if he does step it up it will be huge. So huge i would say he would be defensive player of the year for the saints. If not the only other real options is Hawthorne and Vilma filling the OLB spot. Butler being out really puts the heat on Jr. more than Wilson \|Mitch\| and Spot on Dtan like this.
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07-25-2013, 11:53 PM	#16
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Five Saints will draw attention when camp opens Originally Posted by Danno Maybe Hawthorne, or one of the rookies. I think Mike is probably his ideal position, but if the goal is to put the best 4 LB's out there he may be forced to play SAM with Lofton and Vilma inside. I can't see sliding Lofton or Vilma outside. I think Wilson can be a very good SAM, but an excellent MIKE. I agree, Wilson would be great paid with Lofton but I don't like the idea of anyone else on the team playing SAM yet... If Butler had not gone down it would be a different story. As it stands Wilson is the only viable option at SAM with some proven success as a pass rusher, but we know Hawthorne can play ILB. seems like IR always snags someone promising from us before the season...

07-26-2013, 04:04 PM	#17
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Five Saints will draw attention when camp opens #Saints Will Smith was actually working at Sam today with Galette at Jack. They'll try some mixing and matching there. Will Smith at SAM? Interesting.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Five Saints will draw attention when camp opens What's big John Jenkins up to?

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Five Saints will draw attention when camp opens Trying Will Smith at Sam was probably a very quick experiment. Considering we're all skeptical of his ability to play the Jack LB spot where he'd mostly pass rush and do very little in coverage... I think Coach probably got his answer pretty quick trying him at the Sam where he would play tons in coverage; At least I hope so.

07-26-2013, 06:58 PM	#20
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Five Saints will draw attention when camp opens Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Trying Will Smith at Sam was probably a very quick experiment. Considering we're all skeptical of his ability to play the Jack LB spot where he'd mostly pass rush and do very little in coverage... I think Coach probably got his answer pretty quick trying him at the Sam where he would play tons in coverage; At least I hope so. In a 1-gap 3-4...The SOLB will be in charge of the outside of the TE on running plays and will normally either blitz or be manned up on the TE in pass plays. Smith has 2 of those 3 covered. Not sure how long he can cover a TE before exposure.

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