New Orleans Saints experimenting with safeties Malcolm Jenkins, Kenny Vaccaro at nickel cornerback

TheOak · 08-02-2013, 04:00 PM

What is a "true cornerback"? Is it defined by size/speed, skill/ability, what they played in college?

FinSaint · 08-02-2013, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

What is a "true cornerback"? Is it defined by size/speed, skill/ability, what they played in college?

Moot point... the author clearly meant that the players in question were all natural corners, which is incorrect in the case of Mr. White.

Danno · 08-02-2013, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Moot point... the author clearly meant that the players in question were all natural corners, which is incorrect in the case of Mr. White.

Fin, I thought white played cb in college. Some projected him to safety but he played cb iirc,

FinSaint · 08-02-2013, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Fin, I thought white played cb in college. Some projected him to safety but he played cb iirc,

He lined up as both, but entered the draft as a safety as far as I'm aware.

jeanpierre · 08-02-2013, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

What is a "true cornerback"? Is it defined by size/speed, skill/ability, what they played in college?

It would be a player who is listed as "active" on an NFL roster with the letters "CB" next to that player's name in the position column and receives a paycheck that allows the team to list him at a position because they wrote said paycheck...

TheOak · 08-02-2013, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

It would be a player who is listed as "active" on an NFL roster with the letters "CB" next to that player's name in the position column and receives a paycheck that allows the team to list him at a position because they wrote said paycheck...

Thank you. Not sure how someone argues whether a person is a "what" or not, them when asked to define "what", says the definition is moot.

Example : I am a natural assh0le. By skill, size, speed, and I did it in college; and as you pointed out... My wife says I am.

Danno · 08-02-2013, 04:13 PM

I'm pretty sure he played cb his entire career at samford

papz · 08-02-2013, 04:13 PM

He played corner at Samford but was projected as a safety going into the draft.

FinSaint · 08-02-2013, 04:18 PM

Ok. I believe you guys, but I recall seeing film on him lining up as a safety. And also I have a memory of Mayock talking to Loomis after the draft and asking if they were going to use him as a safety, and Loomis said they were not sure but that they were probably going to use him as a cb, which was a conversion they had had some success with Jenkins earlier on.

But I'm probably remembering it wrong...

jeanpierre · 08-02-2013, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Ok. I believe you guys, but I recall seeing film on him lining up as a safety. And also I have a memory of Mayock talking to Loomis after the draft and asking if they were going to use him as a safety, and Loomis said they were not sure but that they were probably going to use him as a cb, which was a conversion they had had some success with Jenkins earlier on.

But I'm probably remembering it wrong...

Fin, got your back on this one...

Corey White*|*Samford,*SS*:*2012 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile

ProFootballWeekly.com - Draft Prospect - Corey White

Corey White Scouting Report (Samford S) - Draft Insider

Corey White, SS, Samford, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

You are correct that several scouts and scouting agencies had projected White as a Safety...

I had hoped White would be assigned to Strong Safety to replace Harper as I'm in the camp that agrees to disagree about Harper and how he's a liability to the secondary...

Anyways, I still believe the Saints have to find a way for him to get on the field without injury to another player as he needs reps/live fire to get even better...

If Harper's at the end of his contract and Jenkins' extension is not cap friendly with the pending Graham deal, I could see the Saints think tank projecting a Safety tandem of FS Vacarro and SS White next season and beyond...

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,055	Re: New Orleans Saints experimenting with safeties Malcolm Jenkins, Kenny Vaccaro at nickel cornerback What is a "true cornerback"? Is it defined by size/speed, skill/ability, what they played in college?

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FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Re: New Orleans Saints experimenting with safeties Malcolm Jenkins, Kenny Vaccaro at nickel cornerback Originally Posted by TheOak What is a "true cornerback"? Is it defined by size/speed, skill/ability, what they played in college? Moot point... the author clearly meant that the players in question were all natural corners, which is incorrect in the case of Mr. White.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: New Orleans Saints experimenting with safeties Malcolm Jenkins, Kenny Vaccaro at nickel cornerback Originally Posted by FinSaint Moot point... the author clearly meant that the players in question were all natural corners, which is incorrect in the case of Mr. White. Fin, I thought white played cb in college. Some projected him to safety but he played cb iirc,

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FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Re: New Orleans Saints experimenting with safeties Malcolm Jenkins, Kenny Vaccaro at nickel cornerback Originally Posted by Danno Fin, I thought white played cb in college. Some projected him to safety but he played cb iirc, He lined up as both, but entered the draft as a safety as far as I'm aware. Danno likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: New Orleans Saints experimenting with safeties Malcolm Jenkins, Kenny Vaccaro at nickel cornerback Originally Posted by TheOak What is a "true cornerback"? Is it defined by size/speed, skill/ability, what they played in college? It would be a player who is listed as "active" on an NFL roster with the letters "CB" next to that player's name in the position column and receives a paycheck that allows the team to list him at a position because they wrote said paycheck... hagan714 and TheOak like this.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,055	Re: New Orleans Saints experimenting with safeties Malcolm Jenkins, Kenny Vaccaro at nickel cornerback Originally Posted by jeanpierre It would be a player who is listed as "active" on an NFL roster with the letters "CB" next to that player's name in the position column and receives a paycheck that allows the team to list him at a position because they wrote said paycheck... Thank you. Not sure how someone argues whether a person is a "what" or not, them when asked to define "what", says the definition is moot. Example : I am a natural assh0le. By skill, size, speed, and I did it in college; and as you pointed out... My wife says I am.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: New Orleans Saints experimenting with safeties Malcolm Jenkins, Kenny Vaccaro at nickel cornerback I'm pretty sure he played cb his entire career at samford

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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,797	Re: New Orleans Saints experimenting with safeties Malcolm Jenkins, Kenny Vaccaro at nickel cornerback He played corner at Samford but was projected as a safety going into the draft.

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FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,964	Re: New Orleans Saints experimenting with safeties Malcolm Jenkins, Kenny Vaccaro at nickel cornerback Ok. I believe you guys, but I recall seeing film on him lining up as a safety. And also I have a memory of Mayock talking to Loomis after the draft and asking if they were going to use him as a safety, and Loomis said they were not sure but that they were probably going to use him as a cb, which was a conversion they had had some success with Jenkins earlier on. But I'm probably remembering it wrong... jeanpierre likes this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: New Orleans Saints experimenting with safeties Malcolm Jenkins, Kenny Vaccaro at nickel cornerback Originally Posted by FinSaint Ok. I believe you guys, but I recall seeing film on him lining up as a safety. And also I have a memory of Mayock talking to Loomis after the draft and asking if they were going to use him as a safety, and Loomis said they were not sure but that they were probably going to use him as a cb, which was a conversion they had had some success with Jenkins earlier on. But I'm probably remembering it wrong... Fin, got your back on this one... Corey White\|Samford,SS:*2012 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile ProFootballWeekly.com - Draft Prospect - Corey White Corey White Scouting Report (Samford S) - Draft Insider Corey White, SS, Samford, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com You are correct that several scouts and scouting agencies had projected White as a Safety... I had hoped White would be assigned to Strong Safety to replace Harper as I'm in the camp that agrees to disagree about Harper and how he's a liability to the secondary... Anyways, I still believe the Saints have to find a way for him to get on the field without injury to another player as he needs reps/live fire to get even better... If Harper's at the end of his contract and Jenkins' extension is not cap friendly with the pending Graham deal, I could see the Saints think tank projecting a Safety tandem of FS Vacarro and SS White next season and beyond... hagan714 and FinSaint like this.
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