New Saints defense under Ryan produces 5 sacks, 3 turnovers, in scrimmage
 

The defense run by new coordinator Rob Ryan is showing early promise for the New Orleans Saints, compiling five sacks and three turnovers during a scrimmage on Saturday. Outside linebacker Junior Galette had two sacks, one each against Drew Brees and Luke McCown. Veteran cornerback Chris Carr, who chose during free agency to rejoin Ryan, his former coordinator in Oakland, made an interception. He also tipped McCown's pass for Nick Toon, which linebacker David Hawthorne snagged for another interception.
Brees led one scoring drive of 13 plays, capped by Mark Ingram's 2-yard touchdown run. Brees did not have a touchdown pass while sharing snaps with two other quarterbacks in a 64-play scrimmage.
Rookie linebacker Eric Martin sacked McCown and also caused a turnover by stripping Ingram.

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Wow, Eric Martin again huh.

Offcially my favorite UDFA of 2013.

Could he be our own version of James Harrison?

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If the D can preform 1/2 like this in a regular season game it will be at least 15th in the league.

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I could only hope he could be, that would be great!!

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Or better. Just think, the 2011 defense ranked 13th (points allowed), and we had Mitch King, Turk McBride, Sed Ellis, Tracy Porter, Johnny Patrick, Leigh Torrence, Jonathan Amaya, Scott Shanle, Shaun Rogers and Jeff Charleston.

There's not a guy listed above that we haven't upgraded, and that crew finished ranked 13th.

I'd be disappointed if we finished in the 20's and I fully expect to finish in the mid-teens.

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I expect to finish top 10 ish ... Because of our offense , if they can't score On Their first 3 or 4 drives we could have 21 or at least 14 points On The board , which means to come back they'd have to comeback by throwing ... Make even the best passer one dimensional and it's over , let last season be a lesson

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Out of that list, who would you want back?

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None of them would even make this roster as a back-up.

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I can rock with Tracy Porter as a nickel.

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He was horrible when we moved him to nickel.

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Wasn't he hurt the year we moved him to nickel? Well, he was always hurt...but wasn't he more hurt then usual?

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Don't think so. He's just one of those guys who plays better as a boundary CB instead of NB.

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I saw him in one of the games the Broncos played last year. They kept attacking his side. I mean, I would too because the legendary Champ Bailey is on the other side, but they kept going at him. They were getting him too. Thing about him, he'll all of a sudden make a big interception; and that's exactly what he did in the game I saw. Similar to the Super Bowl game. They were killing him with that same little stupid, slant with the wheel route from the slot so the the slant sets the pick. Then he finally caught on. He should've knew from the jump though. The Colts ran that ALL the time.

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So his football IQ is relatively low. You have to run something at him all day before he gets it sorted out.... meanwhile

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A couple of slip ups in return for a big play. He'd be a good rotation guy. If we had to take somebody off the list, I'd take him.

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How many big plays a season? 2 ?
How many slip ups a game? 2?

That's 2 turn overs for 32 long passes.

Not worth it.

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He gives up a lot of underneath stuff. Slants mostly from what I remember.

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Eric Martin.........it just sounds like he should be a Saint. :p

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Lewis, Greer, Robinson, White, Carr, Sweeting, Jenkins and Vaccaro (at NB) > Porter.

Porter wouldn't make this roster.

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That's where I was going lol. If Porter had enough up side to make this roster he wouldn't have been let go, or they would have brought him back by now.

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I love me some Porter - smart enough to know what was coming and make a play on Manning in the SB. What an amazing moment in my life, for real.

But I agree with the greater football minds here. I think we've got better players now. We're gonna rock the teens with our defensive ranking this year, fo sho. Our recent problems have been due to a scheme that didn't fit the people we had and took away their ability (and desire) to be aggressive.

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I don't think White, Carr, or Sweeting (eventhough I love his potential as well as White's) would be a starter on any other team in the NFL. Porter is going to start for the Raiders, and I don't believe the people I mentioned would. Just my thoughts though...

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If we could stop SOME of the average teams and marginal players we encounter from making HUGE plays, we would be better.

If we could cut big yardage plays to allowing one big play every other game we would be improved.

These are terribly low expectations, similar to asking a 5th grade kid to make all D's and D+'s on his report card so he would be considered a genius.

Seriously, last years performance on defense by the Saints was one of the worst I've ever seen in ALL of football ever. And yes Spags disserved every bit of being FIRED! 3 nuns and my labrador retriever could have stopped teams better than if we had 13 defenders on the damn field last season!

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Just glad to hear something positive associated with the word defense.

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What we have on board has not seen much of effective pass rush in a while. Lets see what they can do when every QB we face doesn't have 5 minutes to have a sammich and complete a pass.

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I doubt Porter starts in Oakland, and Carr started for the Ravens 2 years ago.

Porter would be at best a 4th or 5th CB and you need those guys to play special teams. White, Carr and Sweeting are much better suited for that.

I'm 99% sure Porter doesn't make this roster.

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Porter was a starter last year for the Broncos. But I want to see what White us going to do.

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Porter "played" in 6 total games last season with Denver... Not sure how much of a starter that is?

Ok I found it... He started in 4 games...

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I must've caught all 4 and missed the rest.

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Payton Manning homer :-P

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Nice One Danno! and a healthy one at that

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Having us in the teens is unreasonable, to me.
It's a new defensive scheme with new players and many old(er) players moving to different positions. If we can get to 20 I would be ecstatic. That with our O is an awesome team!

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I like it keep it up I can't wait to see what this guy Eric Martin looks like agains the K.C this weekend

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Thats the guy I want to see the most. I suspect he'll look good since on-field performance is the reason he's here. It certainly wasn't his size. If he was two inches taller and 10 pounds heavier he's probably a mid-round pick.

I think he'll shine. Keep an eye out for #55.