Cutting Will Smith

TheOak · 08-12-2013, 11:55 AM

This season poses a number of issues for Smith, he is having to learn a new position, he is too expensive to cut or trade; however, by far the biggest problem for Smith personally is that next year he will be a FA and if he does not at least give a mediocre performance at what ever position he takes the field at he hurts him self badly next year in his free agency.. Unless he is prepared to retire, in which case we could get hosed by a player with no drive.

halloween 65 · 08-12-2013, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Because Jackson is bigger than Vilma? You never saw a guy named Sam Mills hit people? He was small but just rocked people.

There is no way to compare Mills to Vilma it would be almost funny. Mills was better hands down. Vilma might make 4 games as an ILB, he already has to take days off.

TheOak · 08-12-2013, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

There is no way to compare Mills to Vilma it would be almost funny. Mills was better hands down. Vilma might make 4 games as an ILB, he already has to take days off.

Good point... In the commute to the regular season, we do have a couple of people that have to stop and take mini vacations before they actually get to work.

xan · 08-12-2013, 12:26 PM

There are a number of factors to consider why they won't cut him:

The obvious cap hit previously discussed.
The lack of DE depth.
If he gets injured, insurance will pick up the tab on his salary; if he gets cut, it's all on the team.

I kinda like the last one.

TheOak · 08-12-2013, 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by xan

There are a number of factors to consider why they won't cut him:

The obvious cap hit previously discussed.
The lack of DE depth.
If he gets injured, insurance will pick up the tab on his salary; if he gets cut, it's all on the team.

I kinda like the last one.

Last part helps Benson... Cap hit doesn't change.

Beastmode · 08-12-2013, 01:00 PM

Think we are flat out stuck. It could be worse, at least we got a backup DE back to his original playing weight.

Joker · 08-12-2013, 01:15 PM

Will Smith was never worth the amount of money the Saint's signed him to a few years back regardless of what position he was playing and its coming back to haunt them & us. The only thing I can think of right now is to let him man the water cooler.

K Major · 08-12-2013, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

I see him returning to DE. Like he said, he's back to his rookie weight. That should help him out some if he comes in on rotation. That and special teams.

This may be true but as far as I'm concerned, the OLB experiment with Smith is over. I trust the Big Lebowski (Rob Ryan) will see this and make the necessary adjustments.

Jack Vegas · 08-12-2013, 02:12 PM

They need to just put him back at DE. He's big and strong enough to hold an edge and with Coleman being gone they need somebody there.

It was pretty bad to see how much quicker Richardson was at OLB out there.

Danno · 08-12-2013, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

They need to just put him back at DE. He's big and strong enough to hold an edge and with Coleman being gone they need somebody there.

It was pretty bad to see how much quicker Richardson was at OLB out there.

I don't think Smith beats out Jordan, Hicks, Johnson, Foster, Richardson or even Atkins at DE. Smith just isn't a 3-4 DE.

08-12-2013, 11:55 AM	#71
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Cutting Will Smith This season poses a number of issues for Smith, he is having to learn a new position, he is too expensive to cut or trade; however, by far the biggest problem for Smith personally is that next year he will be a FA and if he does not at least give a mediocre performance at what ever position he takes the field at he hurts him self badly next year in his free agency.. Unless he is prepared to retire, in which case we could get hosed by a player with no drive.

08-12-2013, 12:00 PM	#72
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Cutting Will Smith Originally Posted by Crusader Because Jackson is bigger than Vilma? You never saw a guy named Sam Mills hit people? He was small but just rocked people. There is no way to compare Mills to Vilma it would be almost funny. Mills was better hands down. Vilma might make 4 games as an ILB, he already has to take days off.

08-12-2013, 12:02 PM	#73
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Cutting Will Smith Originally Posted by halloween 65 There is no way to compare Mills to Vilma it would be almost funny. Mills was better hands down. Vilma might make 4 games as an ILB, he already has to take days off. Good point... In the commute to the regular season, we do have a couple of people that have to stop and take mini vacations before they actually get to work.

08-12-2013, 12:26 PM	#74
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,371 Blog Entries: 34	Re: Cutting Will Smith There are a number of factors to consider why they won't cut him: The obvious cap hit previously discussed. The lack of DE depth. If he gets injured, insurance will pick up the tab on his salary; if he gets cut, it's all on the team. I kinda like the last one.

08-12-2013, 12:46 PM	#75
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Cutting Will Smith Originally Posted by xan There are a number of factors to consider why they won't cut him: The obvious cap hit previously discussed. The lack of DE depth. If he gets injured, insurance will pick up the tab on his salary; if he gets cut, it's all on the team. I kinda like the last one. Last part helps Benson... Cap hit doesn't change.

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Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Cutting Will Smith Think we are flat out stuck. It could be worse, at least we got a backup DE back to his original playing weight.
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Joker Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Lafayette Posts: 408 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Cutting Will Smith Will Smith was never worth the amount of money the Saint's signed him to a few years back regardless of what position he was playing and its coming back to haunt them & us. The only thing I can think of right now is to let him man the water cooler.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Cutting Will Smith Originally Posted by Beastmode I see him returning to DE. Like he said, he's back to his rookie weight. That should help him out some if he comes in on rotation. That and special teams. This may be true but as far as I'm concerned, the OLB experiment with Smith is over. I trust the Big Lebowski (Rob Ryan) will see this and make the necessary adjustments.

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Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Cutting Will Smith They need to just put him back at DE. He's big and strong enough to hold an edge and with Coleman being gone they need somebody there. It was pretty bad to see how much quicker Richardson was at OLB out there.
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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Cutting Will Smith Originally Posted by Jack Vegas They need to just put him back at DE. He's big and strong enough to hold an edge and with Coleman being gone they need somebody there. It was pretty bad to see how much quicker Richardson was at OLB out there. I don't think Smith beats out Jordan, Hicks, Johnson, Foster, Richardson or even Atkins at DE. Smith just isn't a 3-4 DE. FinSaint likes this.

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