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xan 08-17-2013 11:50 AM

So far, unimpressed
 
After watching the replay carefully, it remains to be seen if there is any improvement over lay season.

The overwhelming concern is that there is not enough talent or experience at linebacker.

Lots of mistakes and missed assignments that a real offense would exploit.

Lastly, the offensive line depth is going to be increasingly problematic.


The Raiders are barely a second tier SEC squad.

|Mitch| 08-17-2013 11:54 AM

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Seriously?!

11 sacks in 2 games, preseason or not; is a huge improvement

dizzle88 08-17-2013 12:07 PM

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We have allowed 55 rush yards per game - good for 3rd in the ranking

It might be too early to tell how good we could be, but no improvement? Not at all, there is a big improvement

iceshack149 08-17-2013 12:07 PM

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|Mitch| 08-17-2013 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 518005)
We have allowed 55 rush yards per game - good for 3rd in the ranking

3rd in rushing, 6th in passing, and second to the 49ers in total defense... Not bad for the worst defense in history, eh? :bng:

Danno 08-17-2013 12:19 PM

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You are right. This team has no talent on either side of the ball. This is all a mirage.

We'll rue the day we fired Spags and lost Bushrod, Shanle, Dunbar, Meachem, Henderson, Ellis, McBride, and Chase Daniel.

We are a clueless bunch of no talent morons. We'll be lucky to win 6 games.

nola_swammi 08-17-2013 12:25 PM

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And then he woke up

Utah_Saint 08-17-2013 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 518008)
We'll rue the day....

This really is the thinking mans football forum.

Halo 08-17-2013 12:26 PM

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Xan was seriously unimpressed with the Superbowl victory against the Colts.
We really played poorly in that game. Lack of explosive offense, the onsides kick was out of desperation, painkillers and marijuana were not allowed in the stadium. Tisk tisk!

blackangold 08-17-2013 12:36 PM

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I am seriously unimpressed by this thread

ProMallNinja 08-17-2013 12:38 PM

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I think Xan should change his name to Xan't. It suits him better. Meanwhile, I'll continue to be positive and realistic. It's what a true Saints fan does. :-)

Danno 08-17-2013 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 518012)
I am seriously unimpressed by this thread

C'mon, just play along. It'll be fun.

Obviously, if Oakland had any kind of pass rush Brees easily would have thrown 2 maybe 3 picks.

Houston is going to embarrass us for 4 quarters. Its gonna be humiliating.

iceshack149 08-17-2013 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ProMallNinja (Post 518013)
I think Xan should change his name to Xan't. It suits him better. Meanwhile, I'll continue to be positive and realistic. It's what a true Saints fan does. :-)

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The Dude 08-17-2013 02:03 PM

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Im not as stoked as some on this board, but its hard to deny that things are looking brighter. I see improvement.

Cruize 08-17-2013 02:05 PM

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The next game against the Texans will give a better indication of where the 2013 defense is. I feel comfortable saying it's much better than the 2012 defense. The uncertainty/injuries at LB is a concern. Harper and Jenkins are what they are. The young dline is looking very good. Vaccaro is the real deal. All of the players seem to love Ryan's scheme. Plus, with their offense and the Head Coach being back, the defense doesn't have to be great for the Saints to win.

ChrisXVI 08-17-2013 02:18 PM

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We played a Raiders team with a new starting QB and their left tackle is done... Let's temper our enthusiasm people. Wait until after the game against the Texans next week to heap all this praise on our defense.

TheOak 08-17-2013 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 518014)
C'mon, just play along. It'll be fun.

Obviously, if Oakland had any kind of pass rush Brees easily would have thrown 2 maybe 3 picks.

Houston is going to embarrass us for 4 quarters. Its gonna be humiliating.

At least ill be at the game and not have to commiserate in the Live area.

|Mitch| 08-17-2013 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 518034)
We played a Raiders team with a new starting QB and their left tackle is done...

7 sacks vs. anyone is impressive... 11 sacks in 2 games is even more impressive...

ChrisXVI 08-17-2013 02:55 PM

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No it's not... Not in the preseason. Especially not against awful competition. If we play as well next week against the Texans then I'll be impressed but everyone's getting hyped over beating a garbage team... We're getting better but let's see how we look against great players.

|Mitch| 08-17-2013 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 518048)
No it's not... Not in the preseason. Especially not against awful competition.

Keep being a pessimist; join the many that are around here. :rolleyes:

If you can't see or just deny the improvement we've seen over last year, that's your problem not mine...

Danno 08-17-2013 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 518048)
No it's not... Not in the preseason. Especially not against awful competition. If we play as well next week against the Texans then I'll be impressed but everyone's getting hyped over beating a garbage team... We're getting better but let's see how we look against great players.

They've been giving the Saints offense problems all training camp as well.

And "getting better" is really all any of us expect at this point.

TheOak 08-17-2013 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 518048)
No it's not... Not in the preseason. Especially not against awful competition. If we play as well next week against the Texans then I'll be impressed but everyone's getting hyped over beating a garbage team... We're getting better but let's see how we look against great players.

If you are going to make blanket unfounded statements, at least make them remotely accurate. I don't recall anyone mentioning the score or winning.

That being said, my opinion does not require anyone else's support or mile stones.

AsylumGuido 08-17-2013 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 518012)
I am seriously unimpressed by this thread

I am seriously unimpressed by xan's unimpression.

TheOak 08-17-2013 04:51 PM

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Mr.Riaton 08-17-2013 05:49 PM

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First of all-I hear a lot of "its only preseason", like players are out there playing like they're in the pro bowl. Those boys are playing hard...some are trying to win a job, and some are playing to try and keep their job. To think that there is no improvement is ludicrous.....7 sacks!! C'mon man!! And to think that a couple of our key starters were not even in the game- how can you not get excited about that!
Secondly- is it just me or are we finally actually f***ing tackling people!!

frankeefrank 08-17-2013 06:17 PM

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I am concerned too...
But at least we tackled in both games... Not a lot of leaky yardage.
That was the main problem for me last year. We'll get more pressure this year, but not much.
Hey, when you're the worst defense ever... it's almost impossible not to get better.

WhoDat!656 08-17-2013 06:46 PM

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Even the commentators on NFL Network said if the Saints defense can improve to 15-20, the New Orleans Saints will be a team to be reckoned with!!

WhoDat!656 08-17-2013 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 518034)
We played a Raiders team with a new starting QB and their left tackle is done... Let's temper our enthusiasm people. Wait until after the game against the Texans next week to heap all this praise on our defense.

And if the Saints had lost last night, would you have made this same post?

Style 08-17-2013 07:41 PM

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How can u not see improvement? Last year they would have had zero sacks against a awful competition.

saintfan 08-17-2013 07:56 PM

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homerj07 08-17-2013 08:29 PM

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Uhhh... He, He He He

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xan 08-18-2013 12:11 AM

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This is exactly why I love B&G. High standards.

poydras 08-18-2013 12:43 AM

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I kinda liked what I saw Friday night. It was a real imporovment over the first game. Other than losing yardage on first down running plays, I thought Drew and company played pretty well. I think the real test will be this weekend against the texans. I'll withhold judgement until I see that game.

BoudinSandwich 08-18-2013 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by frankeefrank (Post 518088)
I am concerned too...
But at least we tackled in both games... Not a lot of leaky yardage.
That was the main problem for me last year. We'll get more pressure this year, but not much.
Hey, when you're the worst defense ever... it's almost impossible not to get better.

What in the world makes you think "we'll get more pressure this year, but not much."?

No scheming, man-on-man, and our players are bowling over O linemen. What have you seen in these first two games that gives you any indication what-so-ever that we will struggle to get pressure?

I understand it's silly to think we'll carry on into the regular season exactly as is. Obviously, we'll meet some force pushing back against us. However, what have you seen in these first two games that sends off signals that we will fail at getting a pass rush?

I'd love to know.

Just because it was against the Raiders doesn't mean it can't be done on tougher teams. (It's not like it failed against the Raiders.) Will it be harder against tougher teams, sure, but I'm curious to know why you don't think we'll be successful rushing the QB.

spkb25 08-18-2013 10:09 AM

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I mean the Raiders are not very good and their Oline stinks, but we didn't really do anything fancy. Even when we brought Harper I still think we only rushed 4. I am not sure we really did any blitzing so that is impressive.

Cam Jordan is going to be very good. KV is really going to be good. I expect some growing pains, but that kid has nice instincts. Lewis is an upgrade at corner.

I think we have more talent than we have ever had under SP. My main concern is oline. I am scared to death if chuck goes down and with his history you almost wait for when. He could be very good if he stays healthy. Strief must be healthy because he looks good on the other side.

Man oh man is it me or is Stills a steal and how about Toon. Loving it.

I think Vilma is done. Good guy and was our best defensive player for a few years. Hope he gives us one more good one, but I don't expect him here next year. And what is with Humber, wow.

B_Dub_Saint 08-18-2013 10:52 AM

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I dunno guys, Im with Xan on this one. One thing he forgot to mention is how ugly the saintsations were and how the waving of the pom poms were just flailing all over the place. If they dont tighten up, I'm gonna have to go down there in my wife beater and speedo and show these broads how its done.

Ok I'm done now:)

SaintsBro 08-18-2013 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint (Post 518195)
One thing Xan forgot to mention is how ugly the saintsations were and how the waving of the pom poms were just flailing all over the place. If they dont tighten up, I'm gonna have to go down there in my wife beater and speedo and show these broads how its done.

Ok I'm done now:)

Agreed. I know "it's only preseason" and they are not running the full scheme, but the 610 Stompers SMOKED the Saintsations at halftime of the Chiefs game!

Rugby Saint II 08-18-2013 03:27 PM

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There are optimists and there are pessimists.
There are optimistic pessimists and pessimistic optimists. Fortunately I am a pessimistic optimist.
Shyte is going to happen........it's just how you look at it that differentiates you.
When life gives you lemons...........don't wish for apples.............wish for some sugar! :p

jeanpierre 08-18-2013 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by poydras (Post 518152)
I kinda liked what I saw Friday night. It was a real imporovment over the first game. Other than losing yardage on first down running plays, I thought Drew and company played pretty well. I think the real test will be this weekend against the texans. I'll withhold judgement until I see that game.

Pretty much how I feel...

Not at all liking what I'm seeing at Outside Linebacker, though the middle and front line looks better; Vaccaro has looked great, though I'd still prefered a game breaker at Outside Linebacker...

|Mitch| 08-18-2013 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 518250)
though I'd still preferred a game breaker at Outside Linebacker...

I think Wilson and/or Galette could be that game-breaker... And hopefully we see more of the same from Humber, be nice if he stays that dominant on the inside.


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