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Old 08-21-2013, 03:14 AM   #11
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Re: A numbers game perspective on previous years NFC South finishers

All that maths when the simple answer is
1. Saints
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It has the same impact as interior color does on tire wear.
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Old 08-21-2013, 06:24 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by TheOak View Post
Coincidence is not the same as a trend. There is absolutely no way to reliably discern what a team "will do", based on historic data.
IDK, you can compile data, analyze it and come up with some pretty accurate determinations on just about anything ... it's how they do it in Vegas, . This is a lotta' information to digest, but there's definitely an interesting coincidence in the NFC South where the majority of Division winners were fourth place finishers the prior season (but I'm not looking for one-trick-pony Carolina as contributing to that statistic this year).

I'll follow the k.i.s.s. rule though:

NFC South

1) Saints
2) Falcons
3) Panthers
4) Buccanneers
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Old 08-21-2013, 06:27 AM   #14
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Can i get the Cliff notes?
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Old 08-21-2013, 09:17 AM   #15
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Originally Posted by SloMotion View Post
IDK, you can compile data, analyze it and come up with some pretty accurate determinations on just about anything ... it's how they do it in Vegas, . This is a lotta' information to digest, but there's definitely an interesting coincidence in the NFC South where the majority of Division winners were fourth place finishers the prior season (but I'm not looking for one-trick-pony Carolina as contributing to that statistic this year).

I'll follow the k.i.s.s. rule though:

NFC South

1) Saints
2) Falcons
3) Panthers
4) Buccanneers
Vegas compiles relevant data...... It analyses cause and effect. They don't lay down heavy odds on irrelevant data.

Who is injured right now has some relevance on what the possible outcome of this season could be. Who finished second last season has nothing to do with who will finish first this season. Schedules have changed, players have changed, etc....

Once you get past that part, the fact that this is specific to just the NFC South like there is a mystical force in place that doesn't effect the other 7 divisions.... and doesn't effect any postseason makes it preposterous.

On Vegas.... The house was built on people thinking they have figured it out... Not by people actually figuring it out. The house always has the upper hand even if the casino is opened in my living room.


I am however quite curious as to why some scenarios start in 02 and some in 03?


There are oddities but there are gaps

It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

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I am however quite curious as to why some scenarios start in 02 and some in 03?
..errrr.... .because the house always wins?
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Old 08-21-2013, 11:14 AM   #17
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And this is relevant how?
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Hey I know exactly who will win the division.

The team with the most wins.
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Hey I know exactly who will win the division.

The team with the most wins.
Now THAT is a correlation that is founded on relative data .
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Old 08-30-2013, 12:35 PM   #20
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Here is one for you Will.

Since 2000 No team has ever gone 0-4 in the Preseason and won the Super Bowl. The ONLY team to ever go 0-4 in the preseason and win the Super Bowl was the 1992 Red Skins, other than that the 1990 Bills and the 2000 Giants are the only teams to ever make it to a Super Bowl after going 0-4 in the preseason.

So Atlanta is out of Super Bowl contention, and so are the Steelers... Hang it up, stick a fork in them.

2012 Ravens (2-2) 49ers (3-1)
2011 Giants (2-2) Patriots (2-2)
2010 Packers (2-2) Steelers (3-1)
2009 Saints (3-1) Colts (1-3)
2008 Steelers (3-1) Cardinals (2-2)
2007 Giants (1-3) Patriots (2-2)
2006 Colts (1-3) Bears (2-2)
2005 Steelers (3-1) Seahawks (2-2)
2004 Patriots (1-3) Eagles (1-3)
2003 Patriots (4-0) Panthers (4-0)
2002 Buccaneers (3-1) Raiders (2-2)
2001 Patriots (3-1) Rams (4-1)*(played in HOF game)
2000 Ravens (4-0) Giants (0-4)


Average pre-season record of the SB winning team is 2.46-1.53
Average pre-season record of the SB losing team is 2.15-1.92

Since 2000
Nine teams had 2-2 records.
Seven teams had 3-1 records
Five teams had 1-3 records.

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