Most difficult team task in the NFL

alexonfyre · 08-28-2013, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

A myopic theory on a very subjective poll. All three are separate tasks in the poll for many reasons but most importantly because all three can not happen in one season.. "Obviously"

There are plenty of teams that are in weak divisions, with weak schedules, and have a lot of luck in a few playoff games... Proving that getting to the Super Bowl is not always a process of clawing your way to the top... With enough luck its quite easy.

Reversing your theory:

"Obviously" winning a second Super Bowl is more difficult than winning the first although when you get to your second Super Bowl you have been there, understand the formula, have a roadmap, and your players are not awe struck.

Then "obviously" winning a Superbowl is more difficult than getting there. However, in no way is 4 Quarters of football more difficult than 72+ quarters of football.

All three tasks have very different required elements, and some teams are suited for some more than others. If you care to test the subjectivity of the options ask the same question to the Detroit Lions and the New England patriots.

My reply is not to debate what you feel the most difficult task of the three is but to shed light on what you "obviously" cant see.

Read this and you will see that sometimes getting there is easier than winning.
RealClearSports - Top 10 Worst Super Bowl Teams - 10. 2002 Oakland Raiders

Luck takes no effort.

Let's rephrase the question, as you are, to say "Getting to Super Bowl" "Having gotten to a super bowl, win it" or "Having won a super bowl, winning again within 3 years"

The probability of winning one game is almost always going to be higher than the probability of winning the number of games necessary to get to that game, so generally, as you said, getting to a super bowl is harder than winning one, even when getting to that super bowl was relatively easy.

However my answer doesn't change

The last task still implicitly contains both getting to and winning a super bowl in a different season, and the combination of those tasks will always be more difficult than either one individually. Further, to say that in some instances the second super bowl run could be easier than the first, and therefore that task is easier to accomplish is a fallacy of converse accident. Even if you only posit that hypothetical to say that it makes the answer "not obvious" then you make the question trivial, because you can then say that about every element, and there is no credible way to defend any of them. Finally, if you want to go the route of facts, then:

28 teams have gotten to a Super Bowl
18 teams have won a Super Bowl
7 teams have repeated within 3 years

There is simply no angle that you can approach this question from and not come to the conclusion that repeating is clearly the hardest challenge.

View Poll Results: The most difficult feat in the NFL
Get to a Super Bowl	8	27.59%
Win a Super Bowl	4	13.79%
Repeat a Super Bowl victory (With in 3 years)	17	58.62%
Voters: 29. You may not vote on this poll

08-28-2013, 07:53 AM	#26
alexonfyre Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Black Pearl University Posts: 799	Re: Most difficult team task in the NFL Originally Posted by TheOak A myopic theory on a very subjective poll. All three are separate tasks in the poll for many reasons but most importantly because all three can not happen in one season.. "Obviously" There are plenty of teams that are in weak divisions, with weak schedules, and have a lot of luck in a few playoff games... Proving that getting to the Super Bowl is not always a process of clawing your way to the top... With enough luck its quite easy. Reversing your theory: "Obviously" winning a second Super Bowl is more difficult than winning the first although when you get to your second Super Bowl you have been there, understand the formula, have a roadmap, and your players are not awe struck. Then "obviously" winning a Superbowl is more difficult than getting there. However, in no way is 4 Quarters of football more difficult than 72+ quarters of football. All three tasks have very different required elements, and some teams are suited for some more than others. If you care to test the subjectivity of the options ask the same question to the Detroit Lions and the New England patriots. My reply is not to debate what you feel the most difficult task of the three is but to shed light on what you "obviously" cant see. Read this and you will see that sometimes getting there is easier than winning. RealClearSports - Top 10 Worst Super Bowl Teams - 10. 2002 Oakland Raiders Luck takes no effort. Let's rephrase the question, as you are, to say "Getting to Super Bowl" "Having gotten to a super bowl, win it" or "Having won a super bowl, winning again within 3 years" The probability of winning one game is almost always going to be higher than the probability of winning the number of games necessary to get to that game, so generally, as you said, getting to a super bowl is harder than winning one, even when getting to that super bowl was relatively easy. However my answer doesn't change The last task still implicitly contains both getting to and winning a super bowl in a different season, and the combination of those tasks will always be more difficult than either one individually. Further, to say that in some instances the second super bowl run could be easier than the first, and therefore that task is easier to accomplish is a fallacy of converse accident. Even if you only posit that hypothetical to say that it makes the answer "not obvious" then you make the question trivial, because you can then say that about every element, and there is no credible way to defend any of them. Finally, if you want to go the route of facts, then: 28 teams have gotten to a Super Bowl 18 teams have won a Super Bowl 7 teams have repeated within 3 years There is simply no angle that you can approach this question from and not come to the conclusion that repeating is clearly the hardest challenge.

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