Will Luke McCown be on trading block?

xan · 08-28-2013, 08:56 AM

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papz · 08-28-2013, 09:01 AM

I don't see the Saints putting McCown on the trade block but if we do waive Griffin, I think someone scoops him up. I usually don't care to keep a 3rd quarterback on the 53, but I'd hate to lose him somewhere else.

thebdj · 08-28-2013, 09:07 AM

I know roster spots are like gold dust and for a very good reason but we cannot afford to waive Griffin. I think he has looked really good and has 'protege' written all over him.

Question about waiving him in the next round of cuts then. Assuming the next official cut block is to get down to your 53, then if someone claims him off of waivers do they HAVE to put him in their 53, assuming they claim him after the cut deadline? Does that make sense?

SaintsBro · 08-28-2013, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by thebdj

Question about waiving him in the next round of cuts then. Assuming the next official cut block is to get down to your 53, then if someone claims him off of waivers do they HAVE to put him in their 53, assuming they claim him after the cut deadline? Does that make sense?

My understanding is that I believe the other team would HAVE to put him on their 53. I don't think you can take a guy from another team's practice squad and sign him on your practice squad. Keep in mind, he may look good, but this guy is reeeeeally green and young and raw. Chase Daniel was outright cut from the roster and left dangling out there, a couple of different times very early in his career, and no one ever picked him up. (IF we'd done that in 2011 or 2012, he would have been scooped up instantly.)

We like Griffin, and we know he looks great, but keep in mind -- there's virtually no way he would be any real help to any other team THIS year. It would be a HUGE gamble for another team to take a chance on him as a "project" to be their backup QB, field goal holder in real games, and manning their clipboard. (Which is actually a real thing, not a joke, he's not just standing there -- it varies from team to team but the backup QB actually does do some stuff out there besides model the latest fitted New Era NFL baseball cap).

We may have to white knuckle it a bit to get him on the practice squad, without getting poached, but I don't think it will be a problem. This kid from Tulane looks like a gem, but he is very low on the radar of the world. I think he makes the practice squad no problem.

papz · 08-28-2013, 10:35 AM

I can justify a McNabb comparison with Manuel but the Pryor to Kaepernick one is a joke. While Pryor is on hell of an athlete, his an athlete playing quarterback. Kaepernick is a quarterback that's one hell of an athlete. That comparison is off by a bagillion-zillion times infinity multipled a gazillion times.

Not that I agree with what the media has been saying about Kaepernick(when it's all said an done he'll be one of the all time greats), Pryor couldn't come close to even sniffing a compliment like that... ever.

rezburna · 08-28-2013, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by papz

I can justify a McNabb comparison with Manuel but the Pryor to Kaepernick one is a joke. While Pryor is on hell of an athlete, his an athlete playing quarterback. Kaepernick is a quarterback that's one hell of an athlete. That comparison is off by a bagillion-zillion times infinity multipled a gazillion times.

Not that I agree with what the media has been saying about Kaepernick(when it's all said an done he'll be one of the all time greats), Pryor couldn't come close to even sniffing a compliment like that... ever.

Just wait, had Pryor never got in all that trouble he would've got drafted before Kap. I remember seeing Pryor coming out of high school because we're the same age. His touch was amazing. He IS a quarterback. Watch.

papz · 08-28-2013, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Just wait, had Pryor never got in all that trouble he would've got drafted before Kap.

That's purely speculative at best.

I remember seeing Pryor coming out of high school because we're the same age. His touch was amazing. He IS a quarterback. Watch.

That makes for a very weak argument on attempting to compare him to Kaepernick. He's so great of a quarterback prospect, people have suggested turning him into a wide receiver since he was selected in the supplemental draft.

To top off the weak argument, he'll be playing behind the worst offensive line in the league. His chances look fantastic.

rezburna · 08-28-2013, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by papz

That's purely speculative at best.

That makes for a very weak argument on attempting to compare him to Kaepernick. He's so great of a quarterback prospect, people have suggested turning him into a wide receiver since he was selected in the supplemental draft.

To top off the weak argument, he'll be playing behind the worst offensive line in the league. His chances look fantastic.

They haven't moved him to WR. That's the point. And he's starting. He'll remain the starter. He was amazing at Ohio State. When nobody was talking about Kap they were raving about Pryor. But the fact of the matter is I'm not trying to argue with you. I'm telling you to watch and see. He'll be good. I ate my crow when Smith started like you said. If Pryor is poo I'll gladly do it again. But as of right now, watch and see. At worse Pryor is Vince Young or Cam Newton.

papz · 08-28-2013, 11:26 AM

Vince Young sounds much more reasonable and realistic comparison. If he had a decent line, he'd at least be a better version of Tim Tebow.

rezburna · 08-28-2013, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by papz

Vince Young sounds much more reasonable and realistic comparison. If he had a decent line, he'd at least be a better version of Tim Tebow.

Vince Young is highly slept on man. Kap inherited one hell of a team and the read option. Vince never got those opportunities to play that style. Lets see what these QB's can do when finally played to their strengths and given a chance to create off those strengths.

Kap and Vince are very similar to me. But Pryor isn't Tebow. He's considerably better. Come on Papz..

08-28-2013, 08:56 AM	#1
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08-28-2013, 09:01 AM	#2
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Re: Will Luke McCown be on trading block? I don't see the Saints putting McCown on the trade block but if we do waive Griffin, I think someone scoops him up. I usually don't care to keep a 3rd quarterback on the 53, but I'd hate to lose him somewhere else. thebdj likes this.

08-28-2013, 09:07 AM	#3
thebdj 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: London, England Posts: 272	Re: Will Luke McCown be on trading block? I know roster spots are like gold dust and for a very good reason but we cannot afford to waive Griffin. I think he has looked really good and has 'protege' written all over him. Question about waiving him in the next round of cuts then. Assuming the next official cut block is to get down to your 53, then if someone claims him off of waivers do they HAVE to put him in their 53, assuming they claim him after the cut deadline? Does that make sense?

08-28-2013, 09:57 AM	#4
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Will Luke McCown be on trading block? Originally Posted by thebdj Question about waiving him in the next round of cuts then. Assuming the next official cut block is to get down to your 53, then if someone claims him off of waivers do they HAVE to put him in their 53, assuming they claim him after the cut deadline? Does that make sense? My understanding is that I believe the other team would HAVE to put him on their 53. I don't think you can take a guy from another team's practice squad and sign him on your practice squad. Keep in mind, he may look good, but this guy is reeeeeally green and young and raw. Chase Daniel was outright cut from the roster and left dangling out there, a couple of different times very early in his career, and no one ever picked him up. (IF we'd done that in 2011 or 2012, he would have been scooped up instantly.) We like Griffin, and we know he looks great, but keep in mind -- there's virtually no way he would be any real help to any other team THIS year. It would be a HUGE gamble for another team to take a chance on him as a "project" to be their backup QB, field goal holder in real games, and manning their clipboard. (Which is actually a real thing, not a joke, he's not just standing there -- it varies from team to team but the backup QB actually does do some stuff out there besides model the latest fitted New Era NFL baseball cap). We may have to white knuckle it a bit to get him on the practice squad, without getting poached, but I don't think it will be a problem. This kid from Tulane looks like a gem, but he is very low on the radar of the world. I think he makes the practice squad no problem.

08-28-2013, 10:35 AM	#5
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Re: Will Luke McCown be on trading block? I can justify a McNabb comparison with Manuel but the Pryor to Kaepernick one is a joke. While Pryor is on hell of an athlete, his an athlete playing quarterback. Kaepernick is a quarterback that's one hell of an athlete. That comparison is off by a bagillion-zillion times infinity multipled a gazillion times. Not that I agree with what the media has been saying about Kaepernick(when it's all said an done he'll be one of the all time greats), Pryor couldn't come close to even sniffing a compliment like that... ever.

08-28-2013, 10:45 AM	#6
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,086	Re: Will Luke McCown be on trading block? Originally Posted by papz I can justify a McNabb comparison with Manuel but the Pryor to Kaepernick one is a joke. While Pryor is on hell of an athlete, his an athlete playing quarterback. Kaepernick is a quarterback that's one hell of an athlete. That comparison is off by a bagillion-zillion times infinity multipled a gazillion times. Not that I agree with what the media has been saying about Kaepernick(when it's all said an done he'll be one of the all time greats), Pryor couldn't come close to even sniffing a compliment like that... ever. Just wait, had Pryor never got in all that trouble he would've got drafted before Kap. I remember seeing Pryor coming out of high school because we're the same age. His touch was amazing. He IS a quarterback. Watch.

08-28-2013, 11:16 AM	#7
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Re: Will Luke McCown be on trading block? Originally Posted by rezburna Just wait, had Pryor never got in all that trouble he would've got drafted before Kap. That's purely speculative at best. I remember seeing Pryor coming out of high school because we're the same age. His touch was amazing. He IS a quarterback. Watch. That makes for a very weak argument on attempting to compare him to Kaepernick. He's so great of a quarterback prospect, people have suggested turning him into a wide receiver since he was selected in the supplemental draft. To top off the weak argument, he'll be playing behind the worst offensive line in the league. His chances look fantastic.

08-28-2013, 11:21 AM	#8
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,086	Re: Will Luke McCown be on trading block? Originally Posted by papz That's purely speculative at best. That makes for a very weak argument on attempting to compare him to Kaepernick. He's so great of a quarterback prospect, people have suggested turning him into a wide receiver since he was selected in the supplemental draft. To top off the weak argument, he'll be playing behind the worst offensive line in the league. His chances look fantastic. They haven't moved him to WR. That's the point. And he's starting. He'll remain the starter. He was amazing at Ohio State. When nobody was talking about Kap they were raving about Pryor. But the fact of the matter is I'm not trying to argue with you. I'm telling you to watch and see. He'll be good. I ate my crow when Smith started like you said. If Pryor is poo I'll gladly do it again. But as of right now, watch and see. At worse Pryor is Vince Young or Cam Newton.
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08-28-2013, 11:26 AM	#9
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Re: Will Luke McCown be on trading block? Vince Young sounds much more reasonable and realistic comparison. If he had a decent line, he'd at least be a better version of Tim Tebow.

08-28-2013, 11:39 AM	#10
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,086	Re: Will Luke McCown be on trading block? Originally Posted by papz Vince Young sounds much more reasonable and realistic comparison. If he had a decent line, he'd at least be a better version of Tim Tebow. Vince Young is highly slept on man. Kap inherited one hell of a team and the read option. Vince never got those opportunities to play that style. Lets see what these QB's can do when finally played to their strengths and given a chance to create off those strengths. Kap and Vince are very similar to me. But Pryor isn't Tebow. He's considerably better. Come on Papz..

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