Will Luke McCown be on trading block?
 

Never heard anything about it, but you would think since he has shown up to be pretty good in the preseason, teams in desperate need for a QB (Oakland or Buffalo) would be looking around at some teams backups.

thoughts?

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Luke has had a great preseason yes.... But, I don't think his strong showing here is gonna merit anybody giving him serious consideration.

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Interesting. My only thing is if we had to actually start him he might just win a bunch of games, he looked that good. Never had that feeling with Chase, he always had a couple of serious weak spots in pre-season either an ill advised pick or just lapse in judgement.

I'd have to say no, even if we were desperate. Gotta have a decent QB otherwise the season is completely lost.

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The teams in need of a QB aren't going to win with Luke or whomever they play.

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System QB...he looks good in this one. Give him OAK's line and it would be pretty sad. Have to keep him since those teams you mentioned would take him away from us just as insurance for EJ, Tuel, Pryor, Flynn, etc. I do feel for OAK and BUF, though...it makes for miserable seasons of tons and tons of TUMS when the QB situation is shaky. Been there a few times in the 3 decades of my Saints addiction.

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EJ Manuel and Terrell Pryor are going to be good. They won't be the reason their teams suck. Luke McCown is a back up. He can't start anywhere in the NFL. Not even Jacksonville.

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The jury is still out on the first two.... :popcorn:

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Don't get caught up in the hype machine. Any intelligent GM is picking McCown over Manuel and Pryor right now.

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McCown may not be a starter anywhere in the NFL but he an ideal backup and could win games with this team.

IMO Griffin is the heir to Brees and having McCown around puts him in a situation where he can learn from two very professional quarterbacks.

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This is the truth

I like Ryan Griffin a lot, I even have his signature on my Splash card, but we are almost definitely going to draft a QB in 2014 or 2015 as the heir apparent to Brees.

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McCown preseason success is due in great part to our WRs and Sean Payton's tutelage.... Not because he is having a break out season now.

Griffin is going to the PS, and McCown will be the BU this season.

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100% agree. McCown has looked decent due to everything around him. He's not a bad player at all, he's just not an NFL starter. Having said that there are franchises who stink the place out who would probably be keen to start him! :)

As regards Pryor and EJ Manuel, would I start McCown above them? It's not always as clear cut as yes and no. There are so many situationals in play. Can Mcown lead either of those franchises to significantly better records than with what they have? I doubt it. Is it worth chucking these guys in and building, whilst, rather negatively, defending a decent draft position next year? Yes. So whilst I agree that McCown would likely get the nod over both of those it's not always that easy.

Drafting in 2014/2015 for an heir apparent to Brees is not going to happen. In my opinion. I think Griffin is well and truly being placed in that position at the moment. He has looked very tidy in pre-season and can learn over a good few years. Defence is well and truly still our concern and will be into 2014 and possibly 2015 (although this is when we may need to start looking at all sorts of other offensive issues as well). We shall see though. I could be well and truly wrong and we go and draft Jonny Manziel! (Not happening but funny to throw it in)

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I dont know who makes these rules. McCown cant start? I dont believe it.

Anything can happen. The Texans took Matt Schaub, who was Vicks backup
& paid him a billion dollars.

I would never say "cant," because this is America, and you can get a job
just by walking off the elevator on the wrong floor.

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Luke McCown has looked decent due to everything around him. I still remember him beating us when he was with Tampa.

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I would start McCown over Sanchez any and every day of the week.

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I mean, did anyone else notice McCown's accuracy sunday vs. the Texans?

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Any GM starting McCown over either of them is stupid. McCown has been in the league for YEARS. His ceiling is serviceable back up. If we're going off preseason performances like it seems we are since everybody is praising McCown, then Manuel has looked just as good if not better. And so has Pryor. They're doing it with much less, and Pryor is doing it behind a dreadful o line. McCown is the one that has people believing the hype machine.

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LUUUUUUUUUUUUKE

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I don't see the Saints putting McCown on the trade block but if we do waive Griffin, I think someone scoops him up. I usually don't care to keep a 3rd quarterback on the 53, but I'd hate to lose him somewhere else.

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I know roster spots are like gold dust and for a very good reason but we cannot afford to waive Griffin. I think he has looked really good and has 'protege' written all over him.

Question about waiving him in the next round of cuts then. Assuming the next official cut block is to get down to your 53, then if someone claims him off of waivers do they HAVE to put him in their 53, assuming they claim him after the cut deadline? Does that make sense?

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My understanding is that I believe the other team would HAVE to put him on their 53. I don't think you can take a guy from another team's practice squad and sign him on your practice squad. Keep in mind, he may look good, but this guy is reeeeeally green and young and raw. Chase Daniel was outright cut from the roster and left dangling out there, a couple of different times very early in his career, and no one ever picked him up. (IF we'd done that in 2011 or 2012, he would have been scooped up instantly.)

We like Griffin, and we know he looks great, but keep in mind -- there's virtually no way he would be any real help to any other team THIS year. It would be a HUGE gamble for another team to take a chance on him as a "project" to be their backup QB, field goal holder in real games, and manning their clipboard. (Which is actually a real thing, not a joke, he's not just standing there -- it varies from team to team but the backup QB actually does do some stuff out there besides model the latest fitted New Era NFL baseball cap).

We may have to white knuckle it a bit to get him on the practice squad, without getting poached, but I don't think it will be a problem. This kid from Tulane looks like a gem, but he is very low on the radar of the world. I think he makes the practice squad no problem.

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What else is there to go off of? EJ Manuel has yet to play a down in any NFL regular season games, and Terrelle Pryor has a 46% completion average for his one season in the NFL.. McCown has a career 58 % completion percentage.

As far as doing more with less.. Except with the Texans Luke has been using second/third/fourth string WR in preseason and the other two have been running with the starters or same.

On a side note, that old adage that playing behind a great QB for a number of years helps has been dis-proven by Matt Flynn... He has also proven that the Packers are no better at drafting QBs than anyone else.

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I meant judging off preseason for McCown when we've seen him in regular season games. And for that reaso, he's not a starter in the NFL now. EJ Manuel and Pryor just stole spots from veterans, though not very good veterans.

Trust me, Pryot and Manuel are going to do great things. I've been saying Pryor should start since last year. Dude is a beast.

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So was J. Russ, Leaf, ... Thinks do not always work out as expected.

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I met Jamarcus Russell in the club in Moss Point, MS like right after he got drafted. Mind you, Moss Point is the HOOD. The club had just opened back up because it got shot up EVERY week. So why he was there? Idk, but he was. His mind wasn't on football. I believe he could still be good to this day though.

I don't know much about Leaf. I was really little back then.

But EJ Manuel and Terrell Pryor, you can screenshot what I'm saying: They WILL be good, dynamic players barring injuries. Manuel will be Donovan McNabb like. Pryor will be like Kap.

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No need to, the NSA has a copy on record. :)

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Yes. His deep ball is not pretty, but it gets where it needs to go, and his short/medium passing game is very good. Probably the best backup we've had in the Payton era.

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I can justify a McNabb comparison with Manuel but the Pryor to Kaepernick one is a joke. While Pryor is on hell of an athlete, his an athlete playing quarterback. Kaepernick is a quarterback that's one hell of an athlete. That comparison is off by a bagillion-zillion times infinity multipled a gazillion times.

Not that I agree with what the media has been saying about Kaepernick(when it's all said an done he'll be one of the all time greats), Pryor couldn't come close to even sniffing a compliment like that... ever.

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Just wait, had Pryor never got in all that trouble he would've got drafted before Kap. I remember seeing Pryor coming out of high school because we're the same age. His touch was amazing. He IS a quarterback. Watch.

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That's purely speculative at best.

That makes for a very weak argument on attempting to compare him to Kaepernick. He's so great of a quarterback prospect, people have suggested turning him into a wide receiver since he was selected in the supplemental draft.

To top off the weak argument, he'll be playing behind the worst offensive line in the league. His chances look fantastic.

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They haven't moved him to WR. That's the point. And he's starting. He'll remain the starter. He was amazing at Ohio State. When nobody was talking about Kap they were raving about Pryor. But the fact of the matter is I'm not trying to argue with you. I'm telling you to watch and see. He'll be good. I ate my crow when Smith started like you said. If Pryor is poo I'll gladly do it again. But as of right now, watch and see. At worse Pryor is Vince Young or Cam Newton.

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Vince Young sounds much more reasonable and realistic comparison. If he had a decent line, he'd at least be a better version of Tim Tebow.

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Vince Young is highly slept on man. Kap inherited one hell of a team and the read option. Vince never got those opportunities to play that style. Lets see what these QB's can do when finally played to their strengths and given a chance to create off those strengths.

Kap and Vince are very similar to me. But Pryor isn't Tebow. He's considerably better. Come on Papz..

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It takes smarts in addition to talent to excel at the top level.... Not sure Pryor and Young possess enough gray matter as Warren Moon did.

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I would agree, but Vince went back and got his degree. Neither are dumb, but they were quite immature. Vince won plenty of games in this league man. Idk anybody else who could do what he's done on the field and not be a starter.

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Young is no where near the passer Kaepernick is. If he were, he wouldn't be running as a back up nor would he have been struggling to find a job. Whether it's arm strength or accuracy, or flat out intelligence, Young is no comparison to Kaepernick. Now if we're talking about running ability, there is some similarities but I believe Kaepernick is more athletic and faster than Young as well.

I do believe Pryor is better than Tebow. With that said, there isn't much evidence to back that up at this point in Pryor's career.

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Give it some time Papz. Let my premonitions come to fruition.

I got a better topic. Drew Brees standing short in the pocket.
Passes look like a rocket, just hope that Jimmy don't drop it.
Falcons still flyin' high but we're infiltrating the cockpit.
The dirty birds going down. It ain't no way they can stop it.

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Sweet... is that part of the new Saints song you're working for us? Can't wait to hear the final production!:bng:

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nah, that was a random act of boredom. it can be though. lol

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Not viable at this junction to give up McCown. Next season this time if Griffin makes some strides.

How smart is the kid how quick will he learn. I think Drew will be a good mentor for him.