Ingram - rumors along with everything else

Beastmode · 08-31-2013, 01:33 PM

He is also trucking with his signature stiff arm. Not many opportunities to do that last year. Get him to the edges, get him screens, passes and he's going to be effective.

TheOak · 08-31-2013, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

He is also trucking with his signature stiff arm. Not many opportunities to do that last year. Get him to the edges, get him screens, passes and he's going to be effective.

Preseason fine, 17 point lead fine.... PT no longer on the team, sure.... Other than that Ingram gets no screen over PT.

Also, he has to get himself to the edges.... He hasn't been able.

Danno · 08-31-2013, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Preseason fine, 17 point lead fine.... PT no longer on the team, sure.... Other than that Ingram gets no screen over PT.

Also, he has to get himself to the edges.... He hasn't been able.

When Ingram's in the game opponents should be expecting anything. He can do just fine in the screen game. Comparing him with Pierre is unfair. PT may be the absolute best screen pass RB in the entire NFL. That doesn't mean we shouldn't throw screens to Ingram.

And getting outside hasn't been an Ingram problem as much as it was an O-line problem. Payton stated its one of the things he wanted to improve upon.

TheOak · 08-31-2013, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

When Ingram's in the game opponents should be expecting anything. He can do just fine in the screen game. Comparing him with Pierre is unfair. PT may be the absolute best screen pass RB in the entire NFL. That doesn't mean we shouldn't throw screens to Ingram.

And getting outside hasn't been an Ingram problem as much as it was an O-line problem. Payton stated its one of the things he wanted to improve upon.

No defense has ever had to guess what was coming out of our backfield in a few years..... It doesn't work that way with RB by a committee of specialists.

Reggie may have been the last to leave a defense guessing and that is because he didn't know which way he was going to go either.

Danno · 08-31-2013, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

No defense has ever had to guess what was coming out of our backfield in a few years..... It doesn't work that way with RB by a committee of specialists.

Reggie may have been the last to leave a defense guessing and that is because he didn't know which way he was going to go either.

With Reggie the only question was east or west.

PT is a complete RB. Defenses must prepare for anything.
Ingram will be used more like PT this year. So far he looks good at it.
Sproles is a scat back, so the draws and pitches will keep defenses guessing.

I think Cadet offers a lot of what Sproles can offer, skill set wise.

Robinson looks like he can become a complete back pretty soon. He looks to be able to do everything well. Thats why I don't get the Ivory comparisons at all. Robinson is way more versatile than Ivory ever was.

Robinson, to me looks like a stronger faster PT, thats dangerous!

dizzle88 · 08-31-2013, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

With Reggie the only question was east or west.

PT is a complete RB. Defenses must prepare for anything.
Ingram will be used more like PT this year. So far he looks good at it!

Exactly, on the screen pass vs texans, they sent like 5 rushers to get brees and could tell the last thing they expected was a screen to ingram and it worked like a dream

DISPLACEDFAN · 08-31-2013, 07:55 PM

If its a possibility somebody, anybody wants Mark Ingram I say make the trade and good grief don't give them one sec to change there minds. i just have never like him or his 2 yrd and fall down self. i have always liked Thomas the guy may not be the best but i think he is our best back that we got on the roster. The guy runs hard and productive when he does and is a excellent pass catcher. I just don't understand why we don't give him the ball more

TheOak · 08-31-2013, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

With Reggie the only question was east or west.

PT is a complete RB. Defenses must prepare for anything.
Ingram will be used more like PT this year. So far he looks good at it.
Sproles is a scat back, so the draws and pitches will keep defenses guessing.

I think Cadet offers a lot of what Sproles can offer, skill set wise.

Robinson looks like he can become a complete back pretty soon. He looks to be able to do everything well. Thats why I don't get the Ivory comparisons at all. Robinson is way more versatile than Ivory ever was.

Robinson, to me looks like a stronger faster PT, thats dangerous!

You somewhat made my point, now when S. Jack, A. Pete, Charles, Lynch who are every down backs what do you know about what is coming at you?

Defenses may not know exactly what we are doing but they can narrow it down a little.

08-31-2013, 01:33 PM	#1
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR He is also trucking with his signature stiff arm. Not many opportunities to do that last year. Get him to the edges, get him screens, passes and he's going to be effective.
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08-31-2013, 01:45 PM	#2
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,061	Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR Originally Posted by Beastmode He is also trucking with his signature stiff arm. Not many opportunities to do that last year. Get him to the edges, get him screens, passes and he's going to be effective. Preseason fine, 17 point lead fine.... PT no longer on the team, sure.... Other than that Ingram gets no screen over PT. Also, he has to get himself to the edges.... He hasn't been able.

08-31-2013, 01:53 PM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,761	Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR Originally Posted by TheOak Preseason fine, 17 point lead fine.... PT no longer on the team, sure.... Other than that Ingram gets no screen over PT. Also, he has to get himself to the edges.... He hasn't been able. When Ingram's in the game opponents should be expecting anything. He can do just fine in the screen game. Comparing him with Pierre is unfair. PT may be the absolute best screen pass RB in the entire NFL. That doesn't mean we shouldn't throw screens to Ingram. And getting outside hasn't been an Ingram problem as much as it was an O-line problem. Payton stated its one of the things he wanted to improve upon.

08-31-2013, 01:56 PM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,061	Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR Originally Posted by Danno When Ingram's in the game opponents should be expecting anything. He can do just fine in the screen game. Comparing him with Pierre is unfair. PT may be the absolute best screen pass RB in the entire NFL. That doesn't mean we shouldn't throw screens to Ingram. And getting outside hasn't been an Ingram problem as much as it was an O-line problem. Payton stated its one of the things he wanted to improve upon. No defense has ever had to guess what was coming out of our backfield in a few years..... It doesn't work that way with RB by a committee of specialists. Reggie may have been the last to leave a defense guessing and that is because he didn't know which way he was going to go either.

08-31-2013, 02:04 PM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,761	Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR Originally Posted by TheOak No defense has ever had to guess what was coming out of our backfield in a few years..... It doesn't work that way with RB by a committee of specialists. Reggie may have been the last to leave a defense guessing and that is because he didn't know which way he was going to go either. With Reggie the only question was east or west. PT is a complete RB. Defenses must prepare for anything. Ingram will be used more like PT this year. So far he looks good at it. Sproles is a scat back, so the draws and pitches will keep defenses guessing. I think Cadet offers a lot of what Sproles can offer, skill set wise. Robinson looks like he can become a complete back pretty soon. He looks to be able to do everything well. Thats why I don't get the Ivory comparisons at all. Robinson is way more versatile than Ivory ever was. Robinson, to me looks like a stronger faster PT, thats dangerous! foreverfan likes this.

08-31-2013, 02:17 PM	#6
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,694	Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR Originally Posted by Danno With Reggie the only question was east or west. PT is a complete RB. Defenses must prepare for anything. Ingram will be used more like PT this year. So far he looks good at it! Exactly, on the screen pass vs texans, they sent like 5 rushers to get brees and could tell the last thing they expected was a screen to ingram and it worked like a dream

08-31-2013, 07:55 PM	#7
DISPLACEDFAN 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: corning,ny Posts: 518	Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR If its a possibility somebody, anybody wants Mark Ingram I say make the trade and good grief don't give them one sec to change there minds. i just have never like him or his 2 yrd and fall down self. i have always liked Thomas the guy may not be the best but i think he is our best back that we got on the roster. The guy runs hard and productive when he does and is a excellent pass catcher. I just don't understand why we don't give him the ball more

08-31-2013, 02:48 PM	#8
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,061	Re: Interesting RUMOR: Giants-Saints in Ingram trade talks - RUMOR Originally Posted by Danno With Reggie the only question was east or west. PT is a complete RB. Defenses must prepare for anything. Ingram will be used more like PT this year. So far he looks good at it. Sproles is a scat back, so the draws and pitches will keep defenses guessing. I think Cadet offers a lot of what Sproles can offer, skill set wise. Robinson looks like he can become a complete back pretty soon. He looks to be able to do everything well. Thats why I don't get the Ivory comparisons at all. Robinson is way more versatile than Ivory ever was. Robinson, to me looks like a stronger faster PT, thats dangerous! You somewhat made my point, now when S. Jack, A. Pete, Charles, Lynch who are every down backs what do you know about what is coming at you? Defenses may not know exactly what we are doing but they can narrow it down a little.

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