MIKE McKENZIE TRADED FOR JT

bayouking318 · 10-04-2004, 06:14 PM

I am curious of what game you people are watching. Once again AB played a good game that didn\'t produce a W & he is being ridicule. The reason(s) they lost that game was poor coaching. The offense was too predictable, the defense couldn\'t stop the run.

What will you expect w/ a formation w/ no back? Pass!! Although the cardinals knew when to expect the pass, Brooks still put up solid #\'s. If anything people should happy this guy is hstill here and not shining w/ another team

JOESAM2002 · 10-04-2004, 06:25 PM

So now that we have Mike McKenzie, does this mean he won\'t play for us unless and until we give him a new contract? :weepy:

BrooksMustGo · 10-04-2004, 06:40 PM

So now that we have Mike McKenzie, does this mean he won\'t play for us unless and until we give him a new contract?

You\'ve hit the nail on the head Joe.
If we don\'t the right team cancer on the roster, import one.

:kerry:

D_it_up · 10-04-2004, 07:50 PM

. Anyone know who our #3 is now?

Didn\'t the Saints sign Kliff Kingsbury to the practice squad? I guess that will move him up to the active roster now. Maybe they have been seeing something in this guy to be able to unload J.T.

I\'m just going to bite my tongue on what I think of this trade. I\'m so confused by it, that I can\'t decide if I\'m pissed off or excited.

BlackandBlue · 10-04-2004, 08:02 PM

What\'s with thie swapping of second rounders?

bayouking318 · 10-04-2004, 08:31 PM

What\'s with thie swapping of second rounders?

I guess Green Bay believe that they will have a lower pick

Sarsippius · 10-04-2004, 11:15 PM

Kliff Kingsbury is going to be a serious player for us in the upcoming years. That kid is a true quarterback, and as much as I liked JT, I dont think any of us will miss him much once you get a load of Kingsbury next year (or this one). We stole him from New Englands practice squad as they tried to keep him protected as well as Rohan. I think the trade is a good one for both teams, and McKenzy is just happy to be out of Green Bay, but his agent says that they arent going to squeeze the head office for a new contract until the offseason, and the Saints are willing , only how much will be how well he does the rest of the season. Look for a fired up and solid play from our new corner.

Sadly i see a lot of defensive holes that this doesnt fix. We will still probably scrape out enough wins on talent alone, but this coaching staff has completely lost my support. Defensive schemes that haven\'t worked since pop-warner according to Bryan Cox, and offensive playcalling so predictable, my friend\'s 7 year old was able to guess the play 90% of the time, missing on the reverse-flea-flick-endzone-defensive-touchdown of course which no one guessed. AB deserved to get *****-slapped by CG im sure after reading his post-game comments.

DARKFATHER504 · 10-05-2004, 12:19 AM

The addition to McKenzie is a good and like SAINTFAN stated ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã…Â“We got something for JT. We totally blew it regarding Jake Delhomme.ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬? Is true. The only thing is Bouman is not the answer is Brooks goes down. Although I would have liked an play-making linebacker, McKenzie will upgrade the secondary and Ambrose to nickel. So the trade was not bad. But it will look bad because of our coaching staff.

saintz08 · 10-05-2004, 12:39 AM

Saints to add QB to competition

Former Texas Tech record-setter might sign deal today
Tuesday, September 07, 2004
By Brian Allee-Walsh

Kliff Kingsbury, who set numerous passing records at Texas Tech, arrived in New Orleans on Monday night and will join the Saints\' practice squad today after signing a contract, his agent said.

Kingsbury, a sixth-round pick of the New England Patriots in 2003, missed all of last season with an unspecified arm injury. He went to training camp with the Patriots in July and was released Friday.

Green Bay and San Francisco, both teams in need of quarterback help, also showed interest in Kingsbury the past few days.

\"This is where Kliff has wanted to be all along,\" said Kingsbury\'s agent, Vann McElroy. \"We thought he was coming to New Orleans in the 2003 draft, because they wanted him, but New England traded up above them to get him in the sixth round.

\"Kliff\'s excited. I\'m excited. We\'re thrilled he\'s coming there to work with (Saints offensive coordinator) Mike McCarthy. We think this is a good fit.\"

Saints officials declined comment until Kingsbury signs a contract.

They did announce that six players have been signed to their practice squad. All went to training camp with the team and were released Sunday. They are fullback Nate Schurman, wide receiver Nathan Black (Northwestern State), tackle Ben Archibald, guard Chad Setterstrom, cornerback Fred Booker (LSU) and linebacker Billy Strother.

Saints officials are expected today to fill the last opening on the practice squad.

Kingsbury, 6 feet 3, 220 pounds, set 39 school, 13 Big 12 Conference and seven NCAA career passing records in 43 games at Texas Tech.

He completed 1,231 of 1,883 passes for 12,429 yards with 95 touchdowns and 40 interceptions. He is one of only three quarterbacks in NCAA history to compile at least 10,000 passing yards, 10,000 yards in total offense and complete more than 1,000 passes.

Patriots\' officials had hoped to re-sign Kingsbury to their practice squad. He was running fourth on the depth chart, behind two-time Super Bowl MVP Tom Brady, former LSU quarterback Rohan Davey and veteran Jim Miller.

Former Saints quarterback Billy Joe Tolliver, who also played at Texas Tech, helped recruit Kingsbury for New Orleans.

http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index...6543322980.xml

[Edited on 5/10/2004 by saintz08]

saintfan · 10-05-2004, 10:19 AM

So now that we have Mike McKenzie, does this mean he won\'t play for us unless and until we give him a new contract?

Looks like that\'ll come after the Season Joe.

McKenzie, 28, is in the third year of a five-year, $17.1 million contract. Loomis said he had no plans to rework that contract this season and had discussed the situation with McKenzie.

\"I made it very clear that everything he\'s done in Green Bay is great,\" Loomis said. \"He\'s proven he can play in the league and he\'s proven he\'s a good player, but he hasn\'t done anything for the New Orleans Saints yet. So he needs to come here and see where he fits in and get a track record with the Saints.\"

That\'s what McKenzie intends to do, said his agent, Drew Rosenhaus.

\"We\'re comfortable with the game plan of working our way through the season and addressing (the contract) after the season,\" Rosenhaus said. \"We talked to the team about addressing it after the year, and that\'s our target right now. Mike is thrilled to be a Saint, and the contract is not an issue right now.\"

http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index...5758021950.xml

10-04-2004, 06:14 PM	#21
bayouking318 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 209	MIKE McKENZIE TRADED FOR JT I am curious of what game you people are watching. Once again AB played a good game that didn\'t produce a W & he is being ridicule. The reason(s) they lost that game was poor coaching. The offense was too predictable, the defense couldn\'t stop the run. What will you expect w/ a formation w/ no back? Pass!! Although the cardinals knew when to expect the pass, Brooks still put up solid #\'s. If anything people should happy this guy is hstill here and not shining w/ another team

10-04-2004, 06:25 PM	#22
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	MIKE McKENZIE TRADED FOR JT So now that we have Mike McKenzie, does this mean he won\'t play for us unless and until we give him a new contract? :weepy:

10-04-2004, 06:40 PM	#23
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	MIKE McKENZIE TRADED FOR JT So now that we have Mike McKenzie, does this mean he won\'t play for us unless and until we give him a new contract? You\'ve hit the nail on the head Joe. If we don\'t the right team cancer on the roster, import one. :kerry:

10-04-2004, 07:50 PM	#24
D_it_up Faqda Falcons Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Ruston, Louisiana Posts: 3,465 Blog Entries: 3	MIKE McKENZIE TRADED FOR JT . Anyone know who our #3 is now? Didn\'t the Saints sign Kliff Kingsbury to the practice squad? I guess that will move him up to the active roster now. Maybe they have been seeing something in this guy to be able to unload J.T. I\'m just going to bite my tongue on what I think of this trade. I\'m so confused by it, that I can\'t decide if I\'m pissed off or excited.

10-04-2004, 08:02 PM	#25
BlackandBlue Kinder, gentler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,889	MIKE McKENZIE TRADED FOR JT What\'s with thie swapping of second rounders?

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10-04-2004, 08:31 PM	#26
bayouking318 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 209	MIKE McKENZIE TRADED FOR JT What\'s with thie swapping of second rounders? I guess Green Bay believe that they will have a lower pick

10-04-2004, 11:15 PM	#27
Sarsippius Registered Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New Orleans Posts: 90	MIKE McKENZIE TRADED FOR JT Kliff Kingsbury is going to be a serious player for us in the upcoming years. That kid is a true quarterback, and as much as I liked JT, I dont think any of us will miss him much once you get a load of Kingsbury next year (or this one). We stole him from New Englands practice squad as they tried to keep him protected as well as Rohan. I think the trade is a good one for both teams, and McKenzy is just happy to be out of Green Bay, but his agent says that they arent going to squeeze the head office for a new contract until the offseason, and the Saints are willing , only how much will be how well he does the rest of the season. Look for a fired up and solid play from our new corner. Sadly i see a lot of defensive holes that this doesnt fix. We will still probably scrape out enough wins on talent alone, but this coaching staff has completely lost my support. Defensive schemes that haven\'t worked since pop-warner according to Bryan Cox, and offensive playcalling so predictable, my friend\'s 7 year old was able to guess the play 90% of the time, missing on the reverse-flea-flick-endzone-defensive-touchdown of course which no one guessed. AB deserved to get *****-slapped by CG im sure after reading his post-game comments.
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10-05-2004, 12:19 AM	#28
DARKFATHER504 Registered Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 35	MIKE McKENZIE TRADED FOR JT The addition to McKenzie is a good and like SAINTFAN stated ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬Ã…Â“We got something for JT. We totally blew it regarding Jake Delhomme.ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬? Is true. The only thing is Bouman is not the answer is Brooks goes down. Although I would have liked an play-making linebacker, McKenzie will upgrade the secondary and Ambrose to nickel. So the trade was not bad. But it will look bad because of our coaching staff.
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10-05-2004, 12:39 AM	#29
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	MIKE McKENZIE TRADED FOR JT Saints to add QB to competition Former Texas Tech record-setter might sign deal today Tuesday, September 07, 2004 By Brian Allee-Walsh Kliff Kingsbury, who set numerous passing records at Texas Tech, arrived in New Orleans on Monday night and will join the Saints\' practice squad today after signing a contract, his agent said. Kingsbury, a sixth-round pick of the New England Patriots in 2003, missed all of last season with an unspecified arm injury. He went to training camp with the Patriots in July and was released Friday. Green Bay and San Francisco, both teams in need of quarterback help, also showed interest in Kingsbury the past few days. \"This is where Kliff has wanted to be all along,\" said Kingsbury\'s agent, Vann McElroy. \"We thought he was coming to New Orleans in the 2003 draft, because they wanted him, but New England traded up above them to get him in the sixth round. \"Kliff\'s excited. I\'m excited. We\'re thrilled he\'s coming there to work with (Saints offensive coordinator) Mike McCarthy. We think this is a good fit.\" Saints officials declined comment until Kingsbury signs a contract. They did announce that six players have been signed to their practice squad. All went to training camp with the team and were released Sunday. They are fullback Nate Schurman, wide receiver Nathan Black (Northwestern State), tackle Ben Archibald, guard Chad Setterstrom, cornerback Fred Booker (LSU) and linebacker Billy Strother. Saints officials are expected today to fill the last opening on the practice squad. Kingsbury, 6 feet 3, 220 pounds, set 39 school, 13 Big 12 Conference and seven NCAA career passing records in 43 games at Texas Tech. He completed 1,231 of 1,883 passes for 12,429 yards with 95 touchdowns and 40 interceptions. He is one of only three quarterbacks in NCAA history to compile at least 10,000 passing yards, 10,000 yards in total offense and complete more than 1,000 passes. Patriots\' officials had hoped to re-sign Kingsbury to their practice squad. He was running fourth on the depth chart, behind two-time Super Bowl MVP Tom Brady, former LSU quarterback Rohan Davey and veteran Jim Miller. Former Saints quarterback Billy Joe Tolliver, who also played at Texas Tech, helped recruit Kingsbury for New Orleans. http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index...6543322980.xml [Edited on 5/10/2004 by saintz08]
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10-05-2004, 10:19 AM	#30
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	MIKE McKENZIE TRADED FOR JT So now that we have Mike McKenzie, does this mean he won\'t play for us unless and until we give him a new contract? Looks like that\'ll come after the Season Joe. McKenzie, 28, is in the third year of a five-year, $17.1 million contract. Loomis said he had no plans to rework that contract this season and had discussed the situation with McKenzie. \"I made it very clear that everything he\'s done in Green Bay is great,\" Loomis said. \"He\'s proven he can play in the league and he\'s proven he\'s a good player, but he hasn\'t done anything for the New Orleans Saints yet. So he needs to come here and see where he fits in and get a track record with the Saints.\" That\'s what McKenzie intends to do, said his agent, Drew Rosenhaus. \"We\'re comfortable with the game plan of working our way through the season and addressing (the contract) after the season,\" Rosenhaus said. \"We talked to the team about addressing it after the year, and that\'s our target right now. Mike is thrilled to be a Saint, and the contract is not an issue right now.\" http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index...5758021950.xml