I'm afraid we're in trouble.

DISPLACEDFAN · 09-04-2013, 09:33 AM

I bleed black and gold but I am also realistic I know that I can't always look through the back and gold spectacles either of course the defense has shown some improvement but I don't think its as big to say there mid pack even you have to remember those starter for some of those games weren't playing much beside they first few drives either and I don't think any didn't not score on the first drive plus with the exception of Houston none have very great offenses that scare anyone . Houston first team tore us up if you recall weather it was Johnson gouging us with big play after big play or it was 2nd Teamer Ben Tate gashing us for big runs. it was getting ugly Brees was getting hit and aside from the big screen our offense did nothing really

|Mitch| · 09-04-2013, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN

Houston first team tore us up if you recall weather it was Johnson gouging us with big play after big play or it was 2nd Teamer Ben Tate gashing us for big runs. it was getting ugly Brees was getting hit and aside from the big screen our offense did nothing really

Brees took 1 sack and threw for 104 yards in just 11 snaps on the field...

DISPLACEDFAN · 09-04-2013, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Brees took 1 sack and threw for 104 yards in just 11 snaps on the field...

one play was 53 yrds and shouldn't have been that missed tackle is more of the reason how many 3 and outs one sack but he was hit a few times more I don't care but none of you guys are Going to sit there and tell me he looked good cause your just wrong I admire your loyalty but don't let your loyalty cloud your brains or your vision Jeez

|Mitch| · 09-04-2013, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN

one play was 53 yrds and shouldn't have been that missed tackle is more of the reason how many 3 and outs one sack but he was hit a few times more I don't care Mitch Your not Going to sit there and tell me he looked good cause your just wrong

Get back to me after a game in the regular season, where the defense is in the actual scheme. (they stayed in a 4-3 that Houston game) And really why worry about the offense, you do understand that Payton/Brees have had a top 5 offense since they've been here...

TheOak · 09-04-2013, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN

I bleed black and gold but I am also realistic I know that I can't always look through the back and gold spectacles either of course the defense has shown some improvement but I don't think its as big to say there mid pack even you have to remember those starter for some of those games weren't playing much beside they first few drives either and I don't think any didn't not score on the first drive plus with the exception of Houston none have very great offenses that scare anyone . Houston first team tore us up if you recall weather it was Johnson gouging us with big play after big play or it was 2nd Teamer Ben Tate gashing us for big runs. it was getting ugly Brees was getting hit and aside from the big screen our offense did nothing really

I am not trying to sway your realism, maybe just add a little perspective.

Preseason, base, bland, defense with 1/4 of your starters not on the field is not exactly a good sample size to evaluate what the season will look like.. is it?

Preseason is the 4 game period in the season when you try things, not prove things. Had we dominated in preseason I will still be playing the same fiddle trying to temper enthusiasm as we would have dominated against vanilla offenses trying things..

Look brother youve been around long enough to know that what separates 1st and second string is .15 of a second in speed... As small as that is, its huge on the field, its the difference between a sack and a 50 yard TD pass. We have had a good bit of starters on both sides of the ball (key people) watching from the sidelines.

What I am doing is taking that into account and also understanding that Defenses are always behind Offenses during regular season in regards to catching up. So, if we look like total crap in week 4 I will panic besides you.. Until then I am going to let things develop naturally as they will do anyway.

That my friend is my realistic view of the Saints so far in 2013.

09-04-2013, 09:33 AM	#1
DISPLACEDFAN 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: corning,ny Posts: 518	Re: I'm afraid we're in trouble. I bleed black and gold but I am also realistic I know that I can't always look through the back and gold spectacles either of course the defense has shown some improvement but I don't think its as big to say there mid pack even you have to remember those starter for some of those games weren't playing much beside they first few drives either and I don't think any didn't not score on the first drive plus with the exception of Houston none have very great offenses that scare anyone . Houston first team tore us up if you recall weather it was Johnson gouging us with big play after big play or it was 2nd Teamer Ben Tate gashing us for big runs. it was getting ugly Brees was getting hit and aside from the big screen our offense did nothing really

09-04-2013, 09:40 AM	#2
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: I'm afraid we're in trouble. Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN Houston first team tore us up if you recall weather it was Johnson gouging us with big play after big play or it was 2nd Teamer Ben Tate gashing us for big runs. it was getting ugly Brees was getting hit and aside from the big screen our offense did nothing really Brees took 1 sack and threw for 104 yards in just 11 snaps on the field... Boutte likes this.

09-04-2013, 09:46 AM	#3
DISPLACEDFAN 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: corning,ny Posts: 518	Re: I'm afraid we're in trouble. Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Brees took 1 sack and threw for 104 yards in just 11 snaps on the field... one play was 53 yrds and shouldn't have been that missed tackle is more of the reason how many 3 and outs one sack but he was hit a few times more I don't care but none of you guys are Going to sit there and tell me he looked good cause your just wrong I admire your loyalty but don't let your loyalty cloud your brains or your vision Jeez

09-04-2013, 09:56 AM	#4
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: I'm afraid we're in trouble. Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN one play was 53 yrds and shouldn't have been that missed tackle is more of the reason how many 3 and outs one sack but he was hit a few times more I don't care Mitch Your not Going to sit there and tell me he looked good cause your just wrong Get back to me after a game in the regular season, where the defense is in the actual scheme. (they stayed in a 4-3 that Houston game) And really why worry about the offense, you do understand that Payton/Brees have had a top 5 offense since they've been here...

09-04-2013, 11:09 AM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,059	Re: I'm afraid we're in trouble. Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN I bleed black and gold but I am also realistic I know that I can't always look through the back and gold spectacles either of course the defense has shown some improvement but I don't think its as big to say there mid pack even you have to remember those starter for some of those games weren't playing much beside they first few drives either and I don't think any didn't not score on the first drive plus with the exception of Houston none have very great offenses that scare anyone . Houston first team tore us up if you recall weather it was Johnson gouging us with big play after big play or it was 2nd Teamer Ben Tate gashing us for big runs. it was getting ugly Brees was getting hit and aside from the big screen our offense did nothing really I am not trying to sway your realism, maybe just add a little perspective. Preseason, base, bland, defense with 1/4 of your starters not on the field is not exactly a good sample size to evaluate what the season will look like.. is it? Preseason is the 4 game period in the season when you try things, not prove things. Had we dominated in preseason I will still be playing the same fiddle trying to temper enthusiasm as we would have dominated against vanilla offenses trying things.. Look brother youve been around long enough to know that what separates 1st and second string is .15 of a second in speed... As small as that is, its huge on the field, its the difference between a sack and a 50 yard TD pass. We have had a good bit of starters on both sides of the ball (key people) watching from the sidelines. What I am doing is taking that into account and also understanding that Defenses are always behind Offenses during regular season in regards to catching up. So, if we look like total crap in week 4 I will panic besides you.. Until then I am going to let things develop naturally as they will do anyway. That my friend is my realistic view of the Saints so far in 2013.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

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