Saints Defense for Real?!

Boutte · 09-09-2013, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I've said it a dozen times in these forums. Atl suffers from the same thing Hou does.

Coach = Can't take you all the way....

The bad thing about that excuse.... You can't draft out of it and injury won't save you. When the coach is weak, the play calling is weak, and the team in the end is weak.

Maybe but they've had more success under Mike Smith than they've ever had before. And while I'm saying good things about them, (GAHHH!!) Matt Ryan is a very good QB. I know his record in the playoffs is terrible but I don't think it's because of him. It's a team game after all.

TheOak · 09-10-2013, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by Boutte

Maybe but they've had more success under Mike Smith than they've ever had before. And while I'm saying good things about them, (GAHHH!!) Matt Ryan is a very good QB. I know his record in the playoffs is terrible but I don't think it's because of him. It's a team game after all.

Depends on how you define success? If regular season record is how you define it then you are correct. If its post season and Super bowl is your goal then Dan Reevs had better success in the post season. Dan Reevs also had a 14-2 season which Smith has yet to do.

As far as Matt Ryan being a very good QB... Gonzo and Roddy get most of that credit, they are consistently his top two targets, one if a future Hall of Famer and the other is an All Pro and 4x Pro Bowler.

Drew has not had a All Pro or Prow Bowl WR yet.

Matt Ryan is as good as Matt Schaub, Joe Flacco, ... any of the QBs that have epic receiving talent at their disposal.

09-09-2013, 08:44 PM	#1
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: Saints Defense for Real?! Originally Posted by TheOak I've said it a dozen times in these forums. Atl suffers from the same thing Hou does. Coach = Can't take you all the way.... The bad thing about that excuse.... You can't draft out of it and injury won't save you. When the coach is weak, the play calling is weak, and the team in the end is weak. Maybe but they've had more success under Mike Smith than they've ever had before. And while I'm saying good things about them, (GAHHH!!) Matt Ryan is a very good QB. I know his record in the playoffs is terrible but I don't think it's because of him. It's a team game after all.

09-10-2013, 08:30 AM	#2
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Re: Saints Defense for Real?! Originally Posted by Boutte Maybe but they've had more success under Mike Smith than they've ever had before. And while I'm saying good things about them, (GAHHH!!) Matt Ryan is a very good QB. I know his record in the playoffs is terrible but I don't think it's because of him. It's a team game after all. Depends on how you define success? If regular season record is how you define it then you are correct. If its post season and Super bowl is your goal then Dan Reevs had better success in the post season. Dan Reevs also had a 14-2 season which Smith has yet to do. As far as Matt Ryan being a very good QB... Gonzo and Roddy get most of that credit, they are consistently his top two targets, one if a future Hall of Famer and the other is an All Pro and 4x Pro Bowler. Drew has not had a All Pro or Prow Bowl WR yet. Matt Ryan is as good as Matt Schaub, Joe Flacco, ... any of the QBs that have epic receiving talent at their disposal.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

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