I should be the last person to say anything.......

Saintaintso · 09-08-2013, 09:47 PM

He can't take the handoff and block for himself too ..

The Dude · 09-08-2013, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by Saintaintso

Again I reintegrate ... Walter Payton himself couldn't do anything with that blocking ... Give him some quality looks then decide . I could understand if there was a wide open hole he just was too slow or lackadaisical to take advantage of , but he literally after handoff is met by 3 or 4 defenders with one foot of space to make anything happen ... As far as I know any wide open hole he's gotten he's turned into 6 100% of the time

Running backs are supposed to make holes when there are none from time to time. Pierre and even little Sproles can manage to do it. Some of you guys act like the line should open up and let him through uncontested. It just doesnt work that way. Even Robinson did it in the preseason when Ingram couldn't.

jeanpierre · 09-08-2013, 09:48 PM

Settle down ladies, Ingram had a bad game; he'll bounce back...

Trade him after today?!? Seattle, remember Seattle...

Though I do think he has a tell defenses have picked up on and he'll have to fix it...

But there's no question that Pierre Thomas is chairman of the committee...

|Mitch| · 09-08-2013, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

even little Sproles can manage to do it.

Really? His 2.8ypc today says otherwise...

K Major · 09-08-2013, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I miss Reggie Bush.

I don't. Pierre got it covered.

Saintaintso · 09-08-2013, 11:31 PM

Just finished film ... The one time he got an open hole 8 yard gain ... Jed Collins doesn't finish his blocks and often times gets in the way ... The offensive line collapses , and when ingram hits the corner DBs are there no receiver or TE blocking at all ...

He slipped once ... We misplaced blame with Reggie not doing it again , give him a seem ...

TheOak · 09-09-2013, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by Saintaintso

Just finished film ... The one time he got an open hole 8 yard gain ... Jed Collins doesn't finish his blocks and often times gets in the way ... The offensive line collapses , and when ingram hits the corner DBs are there no receiver or TE blocking at all ...

He slipped once ... We misplaced blame with Reggie not doing it again , give him a seem ...

So its the line, FB, coaching, play calling,...see a trend here? Its everything but Ingram... Every possible excuse but Ingram doesn't have the vision to cut back or find a hole is being thrown out there.

If we were the Jets I might buy it.

PT/Sproles/Ingram all for the same 8-9 carries. Sproles doubled Ingrams yardage and PT quadrupled it. Sproles is NOT a power runner. and Ingram hits more linemans azzes than holes.

hagan714 · 09-09-2013, 07:40 AM

Ingram is a one cut back and our OL has had issues and those issues are only getting worse so he is behind an eight ball here.

trade bait sure but i would not be in a rush. our RB by committee would get pretty weak if we did trade him this year.

The first area i would address is OC in my book. we are ok there but it can be upgraded IMO. same we passed on the talent in the draft because next year aint looking all that deep.

jeanpierre · 09-09-2013, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

The first area i would address is OC in my book. we are ok there but it can be upgraded IMO. same we passed on the talent in the draft because next year aint looking all that deep.

Center or Offensive Coordinator?

I will say that we haven't had the same push in the middle since Goodwin left; and conversely San Fran's run game took off...

skymike · 09-09-2013, 08:07 AM

dont feel bad.
I thought the game would be a shootout.
didnt know our O was going to look so sloppy.
didnt know the game would end on a goal line stand.

If I ever claim to be a prognosticator, then hand me some
ex-lax, because I do not even know the definition of prognosticate.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: I should be the last person to say anything....... Originally Posted by hagan714 The first area i would address is OC in my book. we are ok there but it can be upgraded IMO. same we passed on the talent in the draft because next year aint looking all that deep. Center or Offensive Coordinator? I will say that we haven't had the same push in the middle since Goodwin left; and conversely San Fran's run game took off... hagan714 likes this.

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