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frankeefrank 09-14-2013 10:08 AM
5 Wide - Empty Set
 
I was really excited to see how we would employ all that speed and skill we have at the WR, RB and TE positions.
Against Atlanta we employed the 5 wide, empty look 9 times.
Brees missed Graham on the first play, because Atlanta applied quick pressure.
But the set was lethal the rest of the way.
All in all, Brees was 7 of 9 when working out of the empty set.
7 of 9 for 168 yards.

Seems like Payton found a quick balance to using the formation

soretoes 09-14-2013 10:37 AM
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I loved it, anxious to see all the wrinkles Payton has come up with in utilizing this awesome formation

the-commish 09-14-2013 11:20 AM
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Empty backfield puts intense pressure on the O-line to hold up.

I hope they're up to the task.

jeanpierre 09-14-2013 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by frankeefrank (Post 527339)
All in all, Brees was 7 of 9 when working out of the empty set...for 168 yards.
Twenty-four (24) yards a play - not bad...

Made possible due to the commitment to the run to keep 'em honest; yeah Ingram's paltry yds/rush is bad, but it is part of an effective game plan...

thebdj 09-14-2013 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 527357)
Twenty-four (24) yards a play - not bad...

Made possible due to the commitment to the run to keep 'em honest; yeah Ingram's paltry yds/rush is bad, but it is part of an effective game plan...
ONE HUNDRED PERCENT! The run game kept the Falcons honest and whilst it wasn't overly affective in a net yard gain perspective, it completely opened up the field at times.

Loving seeing comments like this. Spot on!

TheOak 09-14-2013 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 527357)
Twenty-four (24) yards a play - not bad...

Made possible due to the commitment to the run to keep 'em honest; yeah Ingram's paltry yds/rush is bad, but it is part of an effective game plan...
Pardon my ignorance but how does the run game effect lining up with an empty backfield?

When there is no one but Drew in the backfield what is there to keep honest? They know what's coming.... Just can't handle it.

halloween 65 09-14-2013 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by the-commish (Post 527356)
Empty backfield puts intense pressure on the O-line to hold up.

I hope they're up to the task.
It does leave Brees exposed to hits. Were they be sacks, pushes, or hits. 5 on though gains a lot of yards. Risky!!

blackangold 09-14-2013 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 527378)
Pardon my ignorance but how does the run game effect lining up with an empty backfield?

When there is no one but Drew in the backfield what is there to keep honest? They know what's coming.... Just can't handle it.
Watch for the run... no RB in the backfield. Got a good laugh out of that.

The run helps the PA when in heavy formations. I hope SP doesn't get too carried away with trying to run the ball. Keeping the D honest is great but at some point you have to stick with the passing game when we are running for 2.5 YPC. This will always be a passing team, we just need a running game slightly above average for some type of balance.

TheOak 09-14-2013 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 527383)
Watch for the run... no RB in the backfield. Got a good laugh out of that.

The run helps the PA when in heavy formations. I hope SP doesn't get too carried away with trying to run the ball. Keeping the D honest is great but at some point you have to stick with the passing game when we are running for 2.5 YPC. This will always be a passing team, we just need a running game slightly above average for some type of balance.
Ohhhh I understand keeping them honest with a RB in the backfield... It's that whole absence of a RB keeping then honest that has be a little confused.

jeanpierre 09-14-2013 12:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 527378)
Pardon my ignorance but how does the run game effect lining up with an empty backfield?

When there is no one but Drew in the backfield what is there to keep honest? They know what's coming.... Just can't handle it.
Personnel Changes; Falcons were late or missed in their counter moves...

homerj07 09-14-2013 01:17 PM
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Hell, SP could put Girl Scouts in the back field & I would trust him to make plays.

Rugby Saint II 09-14-2013 01:25 PM
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I love the empty back field set. There are so many possibilities.......it is a thing of beauty with Drew Brees under center.

hagan714 09-14-2013 04:49 PM
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scares the hell out me. i am not sold on the OL

TheOak 09-14-2013 05:44 PM
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If the man that has to sit back there is comfortable with it who am I to say its dangerous.

foreverfan 09-14-2013 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 527357)
Twenty-four (24) yards a play - not bad...

Made possible due to the commitment to the run to keep 'em honest; yeah Ingram's paltry yds/rush is bad, but it is part of an effective game plan...
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 527378)
Pardon my ignorance but how does the run game effect lining up with an empty backfield?

When there is no one but Drew in the backfield what is there to keep honest? They know what's coming.... Just can't handle it.
Here's your sign JP. ;)

http://www.letlifein.com/wp-content/...diots_sign.jpg

jeanpierre 09-14-2013 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 527389)
Personnel Changes; Falcons were late or missed in their counter moves...
The ever changing formations are key to the Saints offense...

Over the past several years, when listening to recently retired players that played against Payton's Saints, there's a common thread...

...they talk about the Saints having multiple formations and how those player's defenses often get caught in mismatches because of their inability to keep up with countering personnel changes...

...I would love to watch a Sean Payton practice where they "rehearse" changing formations on a simulated drive - because I certainly like the game day results...

Danno 09-14-2013 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 527385)
Ohhhh I understand keeping them honest with a RB in the backfield... It's that whole absence of a RB keeping then honest that has be a little confused.
Well... the Falcons aren't all that bright, so maybe he has a point.

jeanpierre 09-14-2013 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 527438)
Here's your sign JP. ;)
You've got to have hard drives in the terabytes cataloguing clip art alone!


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