Lessons Learned Week Two

spkb25 · 09-15-2013, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

1) No More Excuses, Mark Ingram is now in Bust Territory; can't put it all on the offensive line as other running backs had some success; but his field vision and decision making really bears scrutiny...

2) Malcolm Jenkins makes the decision to bring him back more difficult when he has games like this; he's had two weeks in a row of key plays; but he's still taking poor angles in his coverage (needs to ignore Roman Harper)...

3) Posters of Drew Brees and his agent should be placed in every quarterback's locker with the caption "Sure you don't want to leave any cap room for a Left Tackle?"

4) Rob Ryan still calls predictable, unnecessary blitzes; after doing a stand up job of getting a base package pass rush viable again, he negates with poor blitz calls...

5) Injuries are really catching up to this defense; but it is the deepest defense the Saints have had since you know who...

6) Terron Armstead and Bryce Harris need to get their transition in OverTime! Both Charles Brown and Zach Strief looked horrible in pass protection today...

7) Vaccaro finally looked like a rookie but was bailed out with a wimpy call; but he's the best coverage safety we got and really took away many deep plays...

8) What can we get from San Francisco for a Sixth (6th) round pick? Parys Haralson has looked great for the Black and Gold...

9) Jimmy Graham is the Best Tight End in the NFL; and I dropped an in-his-prime Dallas Clark to keep him on my Keeper League Team!

10) Saints would be lucky to fetch even a fifth round pick for Mark Ingram after today; regardless, if Robinson or Cadet can't be trusted, it's time to bring in Cedric Benson or another FA veteran running back who would've converted that short and goal for a touchdown; those are rest of game morale breakers...

Agree with a lot of this. For the most part pretty solid

spkb25 · 09-15-2013, 09:27 PM

I have said I wasn't sure if Ingram was a bust because the d knows he is going to run, but at this point he doesn't gain ****. IDC why, sit him and bring in robinson or cadet, and like someone else said if they're not ready bring in a vet. Something has to give. PT can't handle running the ball 20 times a game for a full season. We need another RB, but MI isn't it.

Rugby Saint II · 09-15-2013, 09:33 PM

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papz · 09-15-2013, 09:43 PM

I think our offense should go more up tempo at the beginning of games so we can get Drew in rhythm.

Pierre Thomas has the best lower body strength on our team and he needs to be our guy in short yardage situation. Even if he gets stuffed, he has the ability to drive forward.

Our DL's do a good job at the point of attack and maintain their gaps well. Our linebackers(MLB's in particular) and safeties need to do a better job hitting their gaps limiting plays on the ground.

I love Greer but he's not the same player. I think he'll get exposed more as the season goes on. Just my opinion.

Our interior line needs to get on their game. Too talented to get pushed around. As great as Jahari has been in the past, he needs to fix his tendency to hold.

Tampa Bay is no joke. They're a good HC away from being a contender. Great tackling team with very good talent at every level.

Do not underestimate teams period.

Cards are up next week. Their offense is much better with Carson Palmer and they also have a lot of talent on their team... albeit a little less Tampa but they make up with it with a better coaching staff. Let's get on our game and play balanced football. I think we crush the Cards next week but using today as a prime example... anything can happen on Sundays.

|Mitch| · 09-15-2013, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by papz

I think we crush the Cards next week but using today as a prime example... anything can happen on Sundays.

I'm glad to be done with division games for a little while...

nola_swammi · 09-15-2013, 09:58 PM

Originally Posted by papz

I love Greer but he's not the same player. I think he'll get exposed more as the season goes on. Just my opinion.

Actually Greer played well, he defended a td pass and was solid thru out except for that one 34 yards pass to nate byham te

papz · 09-15-2013, 10:05 PM

I thought he got away with a handful of jersey.

dueceloose · 09-15-2013, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

I'm glad to be done with division games for a little while...

I second that remarkk.. still NFC so we still need to win em but when's the last time we were two and oh? hmmmm two dat!

lumm0x · 09-15-2013, 10:11 PM

I'm a Jenkins supporter but half of the credit on his pick I give to Hicks for being right in the face of Freeman and making him force a ball. It's nice to see Jenkins actually catch a ball though.

Hopefully this game serves as a wake up call on a few points. I too am tired of them forcing the ball into Ingrams hands when he fails to be half of Thomas or Sproles in any situation.

Marlboro Man · 09-15-2013, 10:13 PM

Drew is really missing the mark lately so what if it's 3 TD's and 3 INT's after two games. That's too damn many INT's. What is he seeing??

09-15-2013, 09:23 PM	#11
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Lessons Learned Week Two Originally Posted by jeanpierre 1) No More Excuses, Mark Ingram is now in Bust Territory; can't put it all on the offensive line as other running backs had some success; but his field vision and decision making really bears scrutiny... 2) Malcolm Jenkins makes the decision to bring him back more difficult when he has games like this; he's had two weeks in a row of key plays; but he's still taking poor angles in his coverage (needs to ignore Roman Harper)... 3) Posters of Drew Brees and his agent should be placed in every quarterback's locker with the caption "Sure you don't want to leave any cap room for a Left Tackle?" 4) Rob Ryan still calls predictable, unnecessary blitzes; after doing a stand up job of getting a base package pass rush viable again, he negates with poor blitz calls... 5) Injuries are really catching up to this defense; but it is the deepest defense the Saints have had since you know who... 6) Terron Armstead and Bryce Harris need to get their transition in OverTime! Both Charles Brown and Zach Strief looked horrible in pass protection today... 7) Vaccaro finally looked like a rookie but was bailed out with a wimpy call; but he's the best coverage safety we got and really took away many deep plays... 8) What can we get from San Francisco for a Sixth (6th) round pick? Parys Haralson has looked great for the Black and Gold... 9) Jimmy Graham is the Best Tight End in the NFL; and I dropped an in-his-prime Dallas Clark to keep him on my Keeper League Team! 10) Saints would be lucky to fetch even a fifth round pick for Mark Ingram after today; regardless, if Robinson or Cadet can't be trusted, it's time to bring in Cedric Benson or another FA veteran running back who would've converted that short and goal for a touchdown; those are rest of game morale breakers... Agree with a lot of this. For the most part pretty solid

09-15-2013, 09:27 PM	#12
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Lessons Learned Week Two I have said I wasn't sure if Ingram was a bust because the d knows he is going to run, but at this point he doesn't gain ****. IDC why, sit him and bring in robinson or cadet, and like someone else said if they're not ready bring in a vet. Something has to give. PT can't handle running the ball 20 times a game for a full season. We need another RB, but MI isn't it. jeanpierre likes this.

09-15-2013, 09:33 PM	#13
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Lessons Learned Week Two I've learned that my heart can't take this last minute drama anymore...AAARRRRGGHHHHHHH......................... spkb25, SmashMouth and onebyone like this.

09-15-2013, 09:43 PM	#14
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: Lessons Learned Week Two I think our offense should go more up tempo at the beginning of games so we can get Drew in rhythm. Pierre Thomas has the best lower body strength on our team and he needs to be our guy in short yardage situation. Even if he gets stuffed, he has the ability to drive forward. Our DL's do a good job at the point of attack and maintain their gaps well. Our linebackers(MLB's in particular) and safeties need to do a better job hitting their gaps limiting plays on the ground. I love Greer but he's not the same player. I think he'll get exposed more as the season goes on. Just my opinion. Our interior line needs to get on their game. Too talented to get pushed around. As great as Jahari has been in the past, he needs to fix his tendency to hold. Tampa Bay is no joke. They're a good HC away from being a contender. Great tackling team with very good talent at every level. Do not underestimate teams period. Cards are up next week. Their offense is much better with Carson Palmer and they also have a lot of talent on their team... albeit a little less Tampa but they make up with it with a better coaching staff. Let's get on our game and play balanced football. I think we crush the Cards next week but using today as a prime example... anything can happen on Sundays. spkb25 likes this.
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09-15-2013, 09:45 PM	#15
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Lessons Learned Week Two Originally Posted by papz I think we crush the Cards next week but using today as a prime example... anything can happen on Sundays. I'm glad to be done with division games for a little while... spkb25 and papz like this.

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09-15-2013, 09:58 PM	#16
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Lessons Learned Week Two Originally Posted by papz I love Greer but he's not the same player. I think he'll get exposed more as the season goes on. Just my opinion. Actually Greer played well, he defended a td pass and was solid thru out except for that one 34 yards pass to nate byham te

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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: Lessons Learned Week Two I thought he got away with a handful of jersey.

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09-15-2013, 10:11 PM	#19
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: Lessons Learned Week Two I'm a Jenkins supporter but half of the credit on his pick I give to Hicks for being right in the face of Freeman and making him force a ball. It's nice to see Jenkins actually catch a ball though. Hopefully this game serves as a wake up call on a few points. I too am tired of them forcing the ball into Ingrams hands when he fails to be half of Thomas or Sproles in any situation. jeanpierre likes this.

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Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Re: Lessons Learned Week Two Drew is really missing the mark lately so what if it's 3 TD's and 3 INT's after two games. That's too damn many INT's. What is he seeing??

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