exile

Donte Whitner disagrees . (Okay, now I'm just having fun with this).

TheOak

Can we trade him for a bag of footballs and call it a day?

TheOak

Ok... Lets have some fun.

Here is Chris Ivory with 4... Getting it done... Notice the lack of Saints linemen? He drug the pile.


Oh! here is Chris agsin.. See all the Seahawks? See the Ivory?



I forgot how much I loved watching Ivory run
Watch it ALL.. Most of it is speed, vision, and dragging piles. Ingram does not have the speed to bounce it outside.

A direct comparison Ivory first 1/2 Ingram second 1/2.. Ingram is not as fast, elusive, explosive, doesnt have the vision, doesn't drag the pile as well, and doesnt hit the hole as hard.. Same offensive line, same season


Sunday night against Tampa Bay

PT gets 5 touches and gets 29 yards, Ingram gets 8 touches and gets 20 yards.. Same Offensive line, same field...



Now.. What are the possible issues with his speed and strength?
Since August of 2010 Ingram has had three surgeries. Two knee scopes and a turf toe... This is his first healthy season since coming into the NFL and he is not doing much with it.

RaginCajun83

Hmm well can't argue against those facts, or can you?

Danno

Breaking News: Ivory was not injured in week 2. Stay tuned.

exile

I can see you get VERY into defending your arguments . Hey, it's cool. If feel that strongly about it I'm on board. Even though I can make a superhero out of almost any college player by making snips. Hehe..

The Dude

Its not just that play. Its a consistant thing for Ingram. For whatever reason he is not getting it done. PT and Sproles are having a tough time too, but they at least get something.
A good running back can move a pile, make a play where there is no play, and at the very least beat his one on one. Ingram cant even do that. OF all the backs we have Ingram is supposed to be the one who can bust through the line when there is nothing. Thats the type of back he is supposed to be, and that is why he was drafted. It doesnt matter to me whose fault it is anymore. He is just not getting it done period. No point in keeping a player who can't do his job on the field when there is someone else that may be able to.

st thomas

yes on goal line situations only

RaginCajun83

I was only trying to make a joke because around here has been a freakin morgue the last couple days even though the Saints are 2-0, yeah I said it the Saints are 2-0 by beating 2 divisional opponents. You would have sworn the Saints were 0-2 and lost both games by 50 points.

Back to topic at hand, I never really cared for Ingram (any Alabama running back for that matter) when he came out because Alabama had 5 4-5 star recruits blocking for him. If you remember the Cowboys with Emmitt Smith in the early 90s its basically the same thing. I'm an U of Houston alum so I don't care about LSU or the SEC

so anything else?

Srgt. Hulka

Audible Gasp!