voodooido

Give him away for a rd 5. He is trash. I would trade him to the Russian league and have his citizanship revoked.

exile

You folks are brutal. PT wouldn't have made it in on that play either. Why not start with having the O-Line block someone?

saintsfan1976

Or having the RB beat some ONE?

exile

You mean beat FOUR someones?

TheOak

Ok... Lets have some fun.

Here is Chris Ivory with 4... Getting it done... Notice the lack of Saints linemen? He drug the pile.


Oh! here is Chris agsin.. See all the Seahawks? See the Ivory?



I forgot how much I loved watching Ivory run
Watch it ALL.. Most of it is speed, vision, and dragging piles. Ingram does not have the speed to bounce it outside.

A direct comparison Ivory first 1/2 Ingram second 1/2.. Ingram is not as fast, elusive, explosive, doesnt have the vision, doesn't drag the pile as well, and doesnt hit the hole as hard.. Same offensive line, same season


Sunday night against Tampa Bay

PT gets 5 touches and gets 29 yards, Ingram gets 8 touches and gets 20 yards.. Same Offensive line, same field...



Now.. What are the possible issues with his speed and strength?
Since August of 2010 Ingram has had three surgeries. Two knee scopes and a turf toe... This is his first healthy season since coming into the NFL and he is not doing much with it.

saintsfan1976

Nowhere near the same play but i get what you're saying

Jack Vegas

I beg to differ. Look behind Ingram's right shoulder on that run, there is a gaping cutback lane and all you have to do is shake one guy just enough to wriggle through. PT has made that kind of play so many times in his career it's not even funny.

Mardigras9

Don't agree with you here.
PT seems to get the yard he needs the majority of the time.

exile

Donte Whitner disagrees . (Okay, now I'm just having fun with this).

The Dude

Its not just that play. Its a consistant thing for Ingram. For whatever reason he is not getting it done. PT and Sproles are having a tough time too, but they at least get something.
A good running back can move a pile, make a play where there is no play, and at the very least beat his one on one. Ingram cant even do that. OF all the backs we have Ingram is supposed to be the one who can bust through the line when there is nothing. Thats the type of back he is supposed to be, and that is why he was drafted. It doesnt matter to me whose fault it is anymore. He is just not getting it done period. No point in keeping a player who can't do his job on the field when there is someone else that may be able to.