One thing about Tampa

lsutigerfan · 09-16-2013, 03:47 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

bucs had this game and gave it away.

Saints had this game And Drew Brees almost gave it away.

SloMotion · 09-16-2013, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

This year though, they spent a ****-ton of cap space on the secondary to compete with the Saints and Falcons. Speaking of which, Falcons/Buccaneers could be an awesome game...

That's what I was thinking ... with TB's new secondary & Carolina dropping games by less than a score, no game on the NFC South intradivisional schedule is going to be a cakewalk for anyone.

TheOak · 09-16-2013, 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

That's what I was thinking ... with TB's new secondary & Carolina dropping games by less than a score, no game on the NFC South intradivisional schedule is going to be a cakewalk for anyone.

I won't go as far as to say they are going to be as difficult as they were in the past, I will say they are going to be no where predictable.

Last night, Tampon Bay was not any where near good, we just played very sloppy. Should have been a blow out.

SloMotion · 09-16-2013, 06:27 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

I won't go as far as to say they are going to be as difficult as they were in the past, I will say they are going to be no where predictable.

Last night, Tampon Bay was not any where near good, we just played very sloppy. Should have been a blow out.

Oh, I didn't get to watch the game that much, (thank-you Mother Nature,

), but from the final score of NO/TB and from what I've seen of Can'tlanta & Carolina, I was thinking pretty much everyone in the NFC South should expect to go 1-1 against division opponents.

TheOak · 09-16-2013, 06:46 AM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

Oh, I didn't get to watch the game that much, (thank-you Mother Nature, ), but from the final score of NO/TB and from what I've seen of Can'tlanta & Carolina, I was thinking pretty much everyone in the NFC South should expect to go 1-1 against division opponents.

We played horrible football, Sean Payton showing rust, Drew having one of "those" games, 3 injuries on D...
I seriously doubt we could have played any worse. I seriously doubt we drop one to TB in the dome.

BTW TB has a d-back that makes Suh look nice, I expect no less than 2 fines to come out of that game. Blatant helmet to helmet spearing.

|Mitch| · 09-16-2013, 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

BTW TB has a d-back that makes Suh look nice, I expect no less than 2 fines to come out of that game. Blatant helmet to helmet spearing.

Dashon Goldson from the 49ers, gave that defense some attitude...

SloMotion · 09-16-2013, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

BTW TB has a d-back that makes Suh look nice, I expect no less than 2 fines to come out of that game. Blatant helmet to helmet spearing.

Yep, that's what I'm talking about ... keep score and escalate the fines on one, you gotta' keep score and escalate the fines on all ... the problem is the hits just keep on comin' ... pretty soon, the players will all be playing for free or there won't be enough of 'em left to field a team/league,

.

SaintsBro · 09-16-2013, 10:15 AM

I know this sounds totally goofy but the NFL ought to consider experimenting with a "penalty box" type of situation instead of fines. Where if you get called for a really blatant illegal hit, you get put in an orange padded box and have to spend X amount of defensive snaps on the sideline before you are let back in.

The fines aren't working, because the players earn so much. And I have no hard proof but I really do believe that coaches or teams are covering for some of the fines, either under the table, or in other ways (signing bonus, workout bonus etc).

But if defensive players were forced to immediately come out the game for leading with the helmet or making cheap shot hits, I think it would reduce them considerably. Because then the coaches and fans would get mad at the players, instead of celebrating them, it would give the backup player some time to make his mark, which would harm a first-string player a lot more than a fine, and make him think twice about doing it again. Because these fines they get are basically what he spends at "the club" with his posse on a typical Saturday night.

It could be something like a 10 play ejection or something. But the fines are definitely NOT working the way Goodell intends them to work; like everything else he does, it blows up in his face.

foreverfan · 09-16-2013, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

This year though, they spent a ****-ton of cap space on the secondary to compete with the Saints and Falcons. Speaking of which, Falcons/Buccaneers could be an awesome game...

Only when the Falcons loose... twice.

TheOak · 09-16-2013, 10:28 AM

A coach and a QB away.... That is huge in the NFL.

It only took the Saints 39 years to get those two pieces.

09-16-2013, 03:47 AM	#11
lsutigerfan 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: born And raised in NOLA, now live in Los Angeles Posts: 811	Re: One thing about Tampa Originally Posted by hagan714 bucs had this game and gave it away. Saints had this game And Drew Brees almost gave it away.

09-16-2013, 05:47 AM	#12
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: One thing about Tampa Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| This year though, they spent a ****-ton of cap space on the secondary to compete with the Saints and Falcons. Speaking of which, Falcons/Buccaneers could be an awesome game... That's what I was thinking ... with TB's new secondary & Carolina dropping games by less than a score, no game on the NFC South intradivisional schedule is going to be a cakewalk for anyone.

09-16-2013, 05:59 AM	#13
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: One thing about Tampa Originally Posted by SloMotion That's what I was thinking ... with TB's new secondary & Carolina dropping games by less than a score, no game on the NFC South intradivisional schedule is going to be a cakewalk for anyone. I won't go as far as to say they are going to be as difficult as they were in the past, I will say they are going to be no where predictable. Last night, Tampon Bay was not any where near good, we just played very sloppy. Should have been a blow out.

09-16-2013, 06:27 AM	#14
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: One thing about Tampa Originally Posted by TheOak I won't go as far as to say they are going to be as difficult as they were in the past, I will say they are going to be no where predictable. Last night, Tampon Bay was not any where near good, we just played very sloppy. Should have been a blow out. Oh, I didn't get to watch the game that much, (thank-you Mother Nature, ), but from the final score of NO/TB and from what I've seen of Can'tlanta & Carolina, I was thinking pretty much everyone in the NFC South should expect to go 1-1 against division opponents.

09-16-2013, 06:46 AM	#15
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	One thing about Tampa Originally Posted by SloMotion Oh, I didn't get to watch the game that much, (thank-you Mother Nature, ), but from the final score of NO/TB and from what I've seen of Can'tlanta & Carolina, I was thinking pretty much everyone in the NFC South should expect to go 1-1 against division opponents. We played horrible football, Sean Payton showing rust, Drew having one of "those" games, 3 injuries on D... I seriously doubt we could have played any worse. I seriously doubt we drop one to TB in the dome. BTW TB has a d-back that makes Suh look nice, I expect no less than 2 fines to come out of that game. Blatant helmet to helmet spearing. SloMotion likes this.
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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: One thing about Tampa Originally Posted by TheOak BTW TB has a d-back that makes Suh look nice, I expect no less than 2 fines to come out of that game. Blatant helmet to helmet spearing. Dashon Goldson from the 49ers, gave that defense some attitude...

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SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: One thing about Tampa Originally Posted by TheOak BTW TB has a d-back that makes Suh look nice, I expect no less than 2 fines to come out of that game. Blatant helmet to helmet spearing. Yep, that's what I'm talking about ... keep score and escalate the fines on one, you gotta' keep score and escalate the fines on all ... the problem is the hits just keep on comin' ... pretty soon, the players will all be playing for free or there won't be enough of 'em left to field a team/league, .

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SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: One thing about Tampa I know this sounds totally goofy but the NFL ought to consider experimenting with a "penalty box" type of situation instead of fines. Where if you get called for a really blatant illegal hit, you get put in an orange padded box and have to spend X amount of defensive snaps on the sideline before you are let back in. The fines aren't working, because the players earn so much. And I have no hard proof but I really do believe that coaches or teams are covering for some of the fines, either under the table, or in other ways (signing bonus, workout bonus etc). But if defensive players were forced to immediately come out the game for leading with the helmet or making cheap shot hits, I think it would reduce them considerably. Because then the coaches and fans would get mad at the players, instead of celebrating them, it would give the backup player some time to make his mark, which would harm a first-string player a lot more than a fine, and make him think twice about doing it again. Because these fines they get are basically what he spends at "the club" with his posse on a typical Saturday night. It could be something like a 10 play ejection or something. But the fines are definitely NOT working the way Goodell intends them to work; like everything else he does, it blows up in his face. leilung, TheOak and SloMotion like this.

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foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: One thing about Tampa Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| This year though, they spent a ****-ton of cap space on the secondary to compete with the Saints and Falcons. Speaking of which, Falcons/Buccaneers could be an awesome game... Only when the Falcons loose... twice.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: One thing about Tampa A coach and a QB away.... That is huge in the NFL. It only took the Saints 39 years to get those two pieces. leilung likes this.

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