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Saintaintso 09-18-2013 12:58 AM

What we can do to better our Offense
 
First and foremost , NO I don't think Sean Payton and Drew Brees need any insight from a fan , but as a longtime football player and defender I do notice a few things that may help us clean a few things up ...


1. Tempo : Drew looked like Favre all game except for 2 Drives , both crucial plays and both were run giving the defense very little time to adjust. Graham was wide open thanks to an Audible , and the Bucs were lax and vanilla on the last Drive with Drew Delivering a Laser to Colston ... That came with no time outs in the hurry up ... As the season bares on I expect us to kick in high gear. We have weapons let's not give the defense all day to fully figure out how they're going to defend them !

2. Cut Blocking : As a NT , DE , 3 technique , Tilt , and in my collegic days OLB I dominated with physicality. Teams had no answer for my style of play , one year we ran into an unknown undersized team ... They averaged just above 6 feet on the line , sliced us up on the ground for 400 yards . Plain and simple if your o line can't sustain blocks due to size disadvantages and lack of talent a cut blocking scheme eliminates immediate pressure , and the offensive blockers always win their 1 on 1 at least long enough for the backs to be long gone. As the game wears on , defenders have to defend the low block , get up and chase the play down. By the 4th it's all but over ... Packer sweeps , 65 toss power trap , old school set the edge , clear the path , get a convoy and run like hell. It also leaves cutback lanes wide open... I'd like to see Sproles get a nasty cut back lane wide open ...

spkb25 09-18-2013 01:38 AM

Re: What we can do to better our Offense
 
Block

lsutigerfan 09-18-2013 06:43 AM

Re: What we can do to better our Offense
 
And block some more, its that simple.

xan 09-18-2013 06:48 AM

Re: What we can do to better our Offense
 
How does one execute the cut block without running afoul of the modern blocking rules? It is not allowed in certain situations....

SaintnDE 09-18-2013 06:55 AM

Re: What we can do to better our Offense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xan (Post 529204)
How does one execute the cut block without running afoul of the modern blocking rules? It is not allowed in certain situations....

watch the Eagles :)

xan 09-18-2013 07:02 AM

Re: What we can do to better our Offense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaintnDE (Post 529205)
watch the Eagles :)


Really? Living in Jersey isn't punishment enough?

jeanpierre 09-18-2013 07:13 AM

Re: What we can do to better our Offense
 
This year?!? Not gonna happen...these are your New Orleans Saints...

We're living with the consequences of the Brees Contract and if Jahri Evans and Ben Grubbs don't get it together, that'll be cap numbers of $17,400,000usd (Brees), $6,740,000usd (Evans), and $4,300,000usd (Grubbs) tied up in a disappointing, mediocre offense for 2013 season...

Not to mention difficult decision(s) for 2014 with $18,400,000usd (Brees), $11,000,000usd (Evans), and $9,100,000usd (Grubbs) due to hit the salary cap...

The only improvements we could hope to see would be that Armstead somehow overtakes a Charlie Brown who made of joke effort to tackle Mason Foster during the Jordan Jefferson class interception last week and Bryce Harris can turn in better, effective results in replacement of the Clod-Hopper at Right Tackle

TheOak 09-18-2013 08:00 AM

Re: What we can do to better our Offense
 
^ Way to stay on target Porkins.

|Mitch| 09-18-2013 08:04 AM

Re: What we can do to better our Offense
 
What can we do to better our offense?

I'll leave it in the hands of Payton/Brees, besides there is nothing that I could suggest that they don't already know and are probably already working on...

Jamessr 09-18-2013 08:10 AM

Re: What we can do to better our Offense
 
Our offense will be fine...
you forget there are teams like the Jets/Jags who can barely score field goals.

TheOak 09-18-2013 08:11 AM

Re: What we can do to better our Offense
 
We can do nothing to better our offense. It is not bad by any means. We are extremely talented at nearly all positions, we are having timing issues right now, and Jahri is not at 100%. Our Offensive line is not built to cut block.. Brown is not agile by any means, and neither is Strief.


Least we forget the only two teams we have faced are our two toughest division rivals who both heavily vested in the Defense in the off season. Osi gave us trouble and so did Revis.

Mardigras9 09-18-2013 09:00 AM

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Blocking, of course, is obvious.
They, not we, need to figure out what the issue is with Red Zone efficiency. Field goals doesn't get it done.

RaginCajun83 09-18-2013 09:18 AM

Re: What we can do to better our Offense
 
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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 529215)
^ Way to stay on target Porkins.

Oh if we could do multiple likes, this would be one of those times

RaginCajun83 09-18-2013 09:22 AM

Re: What we can do to better our Offense
 
To answer the thread starters ?, the offensive line has been offensive this season so far but it was against 2 divisional opponents that know the Saints like the back of their hand, if Drew and Co struggle against AFC teams then there is cause for concern doesn't help the Evans is battling a back injury right now

halloween 65 09-18-2013 10:29 AM

Re: What we can do to better our Offense
 
Get a power back.

homerj07 09-19-2013 10:36 PM

Re: What we can do to better our Offense
 
Interesting ideas. But Drew needs to stop pressing & throwing all these Ints

QBREES9 09-19-2013 11:16 PM

Re: What we can do to better our Offense
 
Blocking would help.

dueceloose 09-19-2013 11:28 PM

Re: What we can do to better our Offense
 
Run the ball effectively which means we need to block effectively.. I also like the tempo point. Seems like eagles, Denver, ne all make a point of high tempo which we should be doing also exploiting mismatches and giving defense no time for gateraid breaks.

Budsdrinker 09-20-2013 08:14 AM

Re: What we can do to better our Offense
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by xan (Post 529204)
How does one execute the cut block without running afoul of the modern blocking rules? It is not allowed in certain situations....

Cut blocking is allowed as long as the defender is not engaged with another lineman or if the lineman doesn't come back towards to play to cut him. Just get off the line and cut the guy either in front of you or to the side the play is running and open a hole.


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