New Orleans Saints make initial contract offer to tight end Jimmy Graham

09-24-2013, 09:35 AM

But Oak, those are "facts" -- and we have to give the MOON to Jimmy. We have to. Everyone else on the team will have to go!!! Because, you know, Jeff Duncan wrote an article that said we should give Jimmy the MOON.

This is the Graham contract situation in a nutshell, according to some people:

Brees = eleventy billion impossible $$$ in 2014
League minimum 420,000 x 51 players = 21,420,000
Rest goes to Graham.

$122 million (cap) -$18.4 Brees - $21.4 mill for the rest of the team = $82.2 Million for Graham. And that may not be enough!!!!!! We have to give Jimmy THE MOON!!!!

Rugby Saint II · 09-24-2013, 10:28 AM

We always seem to push negotiations to the last minute to make sure the player doesn't get hurt or forget how to play.

ikecomp · 09-24-2013, 10:35 AM

Bout time they get to jimmy. Not really concerned about the cap. Considering the defense is playing pretty decent, I can see vilma and smith being gone next year. And if not, they will have to resign for significantly less. Also, Harper could also be in that discussion of being cut loose although I feel the FO wants to keep him if possible.

saintsfan1976 · 09-24-2013, 11:31 AM

OR maybe it helps Jimmy concentrate more...

TheOak · 09-24-2013, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

We always seem to push negotiations to the last minute to make sure the player doesn't get hurt or forget how to play.

Correct, It's managing liability, and getting value while you can.

Originally Posted by ikecomp

Bout time they get to jimmy. Not really concerned about the cap. Considering the defense is playing pretty decent, I can see vilma and smith being gone next year. And if not, they will have to resign for significantly less. Also, Harper could also be in that discussion of being cut loose although I feel the FO wants to keep him if possible.

If you are not worried about next years cap it is because you have not looked at next years cap. Here, let me give you reason.

We are already 122M into next years Cap Space. Now read through the list below and see all of the names not represented in that 122M. Adjusted Salary Cap this year was 125 because we had 2.7M rollover. We have nothing to roll into 2014. If it goes up it will be maybe 126M
New Orleans Saints Salary Cap - 2014 Breakdown

No man EVER said, "let me go to the DMV tomorrow and renew my Drivers License because it expires in 12 months".

TheOak · 09-24-2013, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

OR maybe it helps Jimmy concentrate more...

It will help him concentrate... On his contract.

If you were 26 years old and held a 30M lottery ticket in your hand where would your concentration be?

SmashMouth · 09-24-2013, 12:05 PM

Well, Vilma and Smith won't be on next year's team. So there is your cap space for Grambeaux!

rezburna · 09-24-2013, 12:13 PM

Pay the man. Don't give him an opportunity to walk away. Drew will take a paycut next year. The rest of our big contracts: Smith, Vilma, and Harper will probably be gone. We'll be fine. I'm starting to want to keep Malcolm and Harper, but at a much cheaper price.

Crusader · 09-24-2013, 12:15 PM

Getting rid of Smith and Vilma's contracts will help a lot. If they are resigned it will be for a lot less money.

TheOak · 09-24-2013, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Well, Vilma and Smith won't be on next year's team. So there is your cap space for Grambeaux!

No brother... That 122M for 2014 does not include Vilma and Smith.

That 122M we have consumes next year/2014 is only 40 players and a practice squad.

Thats the reason i said read through the 2014 cap list and see all of the players not on it.

09-24-2013, 09:35 AM	#21
Threaded by SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3 Rating: (0 votes - average) But Oak, those are "facts" -- and we have to give the MOON to Jimmy. We have to. Everyone else on the team will have to go!!! Because, you know, Jeff Duncan wrote an article that said we should give Jimmy the MOON. This is the Graham contract situation in a nutshell, according to some people: Brees = eleventy billion impossible $$$ in 2014 League minimum 420,000 x 51 players = 21,420,000 Rest goes to Graham. $122 million (cap) -$18.4 Brees - $21.4 mill for the rest of the team = $82.2 Million for Graham. And that may not be enough!!!!!! We have to give Jimmy THE MOON!!!! Halo, RockyMountainSaint, TheOak and 1 others like this.
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09-24-2013, 10:28 AM	#22
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09-24-2013, 11:31 AM	#24
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09-24-2013, 11:33 AM	#25
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,019	Re: New Orleans Saints make initial contract offer to tight end Jimmy Graham Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II We always seem to push negotiations to the last minute to make sure the player doesn't get hurt or forget how to play. Correct, It's managing liability, and getting value while you can. Originally Posted by ikecomp Bout time they get to jimmy. Not really concerned about the cap. Considering the defense is playing pretty decent, I can see vilma and smith being gone next year. And if not, they will have to resign for significantly less. Also, Harper could also be in that discussion of being cut loose although I feel the FO wants to keep him if possible. If you are not worried about next years cap it is because you have not looked at next years cap. Here, let me give you reason. We are already 122M into next years Cap Space. Now read through the list below and see all of the names not represented in that 122M. Adjusted Salary Cap this year was 125 because we had 2.7M rollover. We have nothing to roll into 2014. If it goes up it will be maybe 126M New Orleans Saints Salary Cap - 2014 Breakdown No man EVER said, "let me go to the DMV tomorrow and renew my Drivers License because it expires in 12 months".
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09-24-2013, 11:35 AM	#26
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,019	Re: New Orleans Saints make initial contract offer to tight end Jimmy Graham Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 OR maybe it helps Jimmy concentrate more... It will help him concentrate... On his contract. If you were 26 years old and held a 30M lottery ticket in your hand where would your concentration be?

09-24-2013, 12:05 PM	#27
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,044 Blog Entries: 29	Re: New Orleans Saints make initial contract offer to tight end Jimmy Graham Well, Vilma and Smith won't be on next year's team. So there is your cap space for Grambeaux!

09-24-2013, 12:13 PM	#28
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,848	Re: New Orleans Saints make initial contract offer to tight end Jimmy Graham Pay the man. Don't give him an opportunity to walk away. Drew will take a paycut next year. The rest of our big contracts: Smith, Vilma, and Harper will probably be gone. We'll be fine. I'm starting to want to keep Malcolm and Harper, but at a much cheaper price.

09-24-2013, 12:15 PM	#29
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,017	Re: New Orleans Saints make initial contract offer to tight end Jimmy Graham Getting rid of Smith and Vilma's contracts will help a lot. If they are resigned it will be for a lot less money.

09-24-2013, 12:16 PM	#30
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,019	Re: New Orleans Saints make initial contract offer to tight end Jimmy Graham Originally Posted by SmashMouth Well, Vilma and Smith won't be on next year's team. So there is your cap space for Grambeaux! No brother... That 122M for 2014 does not include Vilma and Smith. That 122M we have consumes next year/2014 is only 40 players and a practice squad. Thats the reason i said read through the 2014 cap list and see all of the players not on it.

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