How bad does Spagnuolo look now? LOL

AllSaints · 09-26-2013, 01:48 PM

That season aka bounty gate it's burnt out my memory .... Who is this spags guy ?

QBREES9 · 09-26-2013, 02:00 PM

I know, who ? We have Rob Ryan.

Jack Vegas · 09-26-2013, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by the-commish

I really think a talent infusion has a lot to do with the improvement.

Don't get me wrong, there is some new talent, but look at what Spagnuolo still had available to him.

Galette
Jordan
Lofton
Hawthorne
Hicks

That is arguably the five best players on our defense this year, and they were all there last year, he just didn't have a clue what to do with them.

He also had:

Walker
Bunkley
Johnson
Greer
Harper
Jenkins
Robinson
Bush

All guys that have played well and been a big part of the defense at one time or another.

adding Vaccaro, Jenkins, Lewis, Haralson, Foster, etc. has been great, but looking at the above list of players and knowing now how good they actually can be, is there any excuse for that being anything close to the worst defense in the league (much less the worst in history or whatever). And all this time we've been sitting here having to hear about how the Saints defense "doesn't have any talent". Which was an idea I never bought into, but how are you gonna argue against it when the numbers are so bad?

homerj07 · 09-26-2013, 09:06 PM

Well.... If he is soooo good, maybe he should coach for the Clowns

Seer1 · 09-26-2013, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by homerj07

Well.... If he is soooo good, maybe he should coach for the Clowns

Him n' Smith and a brown spot? Oh yeah!

RailBoss · 09-27-2013, 04:49 PM

In all fairness Spags without SP didn't stand a chance!

biloxi-indian · 09-27-2013, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

The game nowadays is all about adjustments and are you humble enough to admit what you were doing wasn't working.

Great coaches adjust to their defensive players and the way the other team are playing.

Sean Payton makes adjustments, Rob Ryan makes adjustments. Spags refused to and was so set in his way that no defensive player ever felt comfortable in that D.

Now the players feel comfortable, they have their swagger back and rightfully so, they pretty much won the first two games for us and threw the cardinals out of the dome

I would hate to think the Saints 2012 record if they had made Spags interim Head Coach! OUCH.

papz · 09-27-2013, 06:26 PM

I still think Spags is a very good coach... he just wasn't one with us. The same mitigating circumstances the OP is using to excuse Ryan in Dallas, the same could be said of Spags in New Orleans. He moved on, we moved on, and we're all in a better place. No need to harp on it and point fingers. There was enough fault and suckage to share amongst everyone.

Rugby Saint II · 09-27-2013, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by SaintnDE

Between him and Vacarro, I don't know who fires them up the most...but whomever it is, keep rockin' it. I spent the last two days rewatching the game on NFL rewind just to watch the defense.

When the hell was that last time that happened?!?!?

'09!

|Mitch| · 09-27-2013, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

'09!

I believe this years defense is better than it was in '09...

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Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: How bad does Spagnuolo look now? LOL Originally Posted by the-commish I really think a talent infusion has a lot to do with the improvement. Don't get me wrong, there is some new talent, but look at what Spagnuolo still had available to him. Galette Jordan Lofton Hawthorne Hicks That is arguably the five best players on our defense this year, and they were all there last year, he just didn't have a clue what to do with them. He also had: Walker Bunkley Johnson Greer Harper Jenkins Robinson Bush All guys that have played well and been a big part of the defense at one time or another. adding Vaccaro, Jenkins, Lewis, Haralson, Foster, etc. has been great, but looking at the above list of players and knowing now how good they actually can be, is there any excuse for that being anything close to the worst defense in the league (much less the worst in history or whatever). And all this time we've been sitting here having to hear about how the Saints defense "doesn't have any talent". Which was an idea I never bought into, but how are you gonna argue against it when the numbers are so bad?
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