No Running Game

SaintsBro · 10-06-2013, 04:59 PM

So what you are saying is, you would rather see Pierre score by making five smaller grinding 5 yard runs, then on a single 25 yard screen pass. OK.

thebdj · 10-06-2013, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

So what you are saying is, you would rather see Pierre score by making five smaller grinding 5 yard runs, then on a single 25 yard screen pass. OK.

Yes, that's exactly what I was saying. You did well to read between the lines there ... ummmm ... no. I wasn't questioning Pierre Thomas, which I had hoped was indicated by the rest of the context around it. I was saying that based on the logic we have crucified Mark Ingram on, we should also hold up Pierre Thomas. And because I don't think Pierre is to blame, I was using that to demonstrate the real problem definitely lies with the O-line. Having said that, the stats do not lie, on the ground we are very poor indeed.

Look at those down-and-1 conversions. They were worrying. You should be able to plough through them and carry on but we were at 4th down far too many times.

We are definitely managing the clock very well but let's understand why we are doing that. That's largely because we are getting the opposition offence off the field so damn quickly. That is our defence doing that great work. And yes Brees throwing the ball about with so much accuracy obviously helps a great deal but I would rather see a balanced game and an improved running game.

dueceloose · 10-06-2013, 07:42 PM

PT may have struggled but he does more than Ingram.. So why don't we steal a ol from someones PS or something Lol. 5-0 super bowl bound

alleycat_126 · 10-06-2013, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by thebdj

Yes, that's exactly what I was saying. You did well to read between the lines there ... ummmm ... no. I wasn't questioning Pierre Thomas, which I had hoped was indicated by the rest of the context around it. I was saying that based on the logic we have crucified Mark Ingram on, we should also hold up Pierre Thomas. And because I don't think Pierre is to blame, I was using that to demonstrate the real problem definitely lies with the O-line. Having said that, the stats do not lie, on the ground we are very poor indeed.

Look at those down-and-1 conversions. They were worrying. You should be able to plough through them and carry on but we were at 4th down far too many times.

We are definitely managing the clock very well but let's understand why we are doing that. That's largely because we are getting the opposition offence off the field so damn quickly. That is our defence doing that great work. And yes Brees throwing the ball about with so much accuracy obviously helps a great deal but I would rather see a balanced game and an improved running game.

Cant we argue about this when it causes us to lose a game. This is a waste of keystrokes. For this version of the Saints at the skill positions the threat is so much more important than the run itself. An effective run opens up the play action..... And the play action today was there.... Robert Meacham was robbed?

This game was about as balanced as the Saints have been... And to the actual running games credit as long as Briggs didn't shoot the gap we were getting 5-6 yards per instead of the Mark Ingrams 1-2 yrds per... and we actually made the a few of the 4-1s' we took vs getting stopped on 4-1 because there was no second effort....

WHODATINCA · 10-06-2013, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by alleycat_126

Cant we argue about this when it causes us to lose a game.

Nope.

We will talk about all aspects of concern, when it comes to this team and what the unquestioned experts here, think will add to continued success.

LOL

10-06-2013, 04:59 PM	#1
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10-06-2013, 05:06 PM	#2
thebdj 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: London, England Posts: 272	Re: No Running Game Originally Posted by SaintsBro So what you are saying is, you would rather see Pierre score by making five smaller grinding 5 yard runs, then on a single 25 yard screen pass. OK. Yes, that's exactly what I was saying. You did well to read between the lines there ... ummmm ... no. I wasn't questioning Pierre Thomas, which I had hoped was indicated by the rest of the context around it. I was saying that based on the logic we have crucified Mark Ingram on, we should also hold up Pierre Thomas. And because I don't think Pierre is to blame, I was using that to demonstrate the real problem definitely lies with the O-line. Having said that, the stats do not lie, on the ground we are very poor indeed. Look at those down-and-1 conversions. They were worrying. You should be able to plough through them and carry on but we were at 4th down far too many times. We are definitely managing the clock very well but let's understand why we are doing that. That's largely because we are getting the opposition offence off the field so damn quickly. That is our defence doing that great work. And yes Brees throwing the ball about with so much accuracy obviously helps a great deal but I would rather see a balanced game and an improved running game.

10-06-2013, 07:42 PM	#3
dueceloose 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 957	Re: No Running Game PT may have struggled but he does more than Ingram.. So why don't we steal a ol from someones PS or something Lol. 5-0 super bowl bound
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10-06-2013, 09:33 PM	#4
alleycat_126 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Katy, Tx a suburb of Houston Posts: 2,089	Re: No Running Game Originally Posted by thebdj Yes, that's exactly what I was saying. You did well to read between the lines there ... ummmm ... no. I wasn't questioning Pierre Thomas, which I had hoped was indicated by the rest of the context around it. I was saying that based on the logic we have crucified Mark Ingram on, we should also hold up Pierre Thomas. And because I don't think Pierre is to blame, I was using that to demonstrate the real problem definitely lies with the O-line. Having said that, the stats do not lie, on the ground we are very poor indeed. Look at those down-and-1 conversions. They were worrying. You should be able to plough through them and carry on but we were at 4th down far too many times. We are definitely managing the clock very well but let's understand why we are doing that. That's largely because we are getting the opposition offence off the field so damn quickly. That is our defence doing that great work. And yes Brees throwing the ball about with so much accuracy obviously helps a great deal but I would rather see a balanced game and an improved running game. Cant we argue about this when it causes us to lose a game. This is a waste of keystrokes. For this version of the Saints at the skill positions the threat is so much more important than the run itself. An effective run opens up the play action..... And the play action today was there.... Robert Meacham was robbed? This game was about as balanced as the Saints have been... And to the actual running games credit as long as Briggs didn't shoot the gap we were getting 5-6 yards per instead of the Mark Ingrams 1-2 yrds per... and we actually made the a few of the 4-1s' we took vs getting stopped on 4-1 because there was no second effort.... ScottF, SaintsBro and dam1953 like this.
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10-06-2013, 10:15 PM	#5
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: No Running Game Originally Posted by alleycat_126 Cant we argue about this when it causes us to lose a game. Nope. We will talk about all aspects of concern, when it comes to this team and what the unquestioned experts here, think will add to continued success. LOL

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