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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Amazing, we average 2.36 yards rushing and still I'm hearing how much better the run game is without Ingram. A lot of the running yards was after contact. Ingram consistantly does not get yards after contact ...

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Old 10-07-2013, 08:41 AM   #51
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Re: No Running Game

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker View Post
Amazing, we average 2.36 yards rushing and still I'm hearing how much better the run game is without Ingram.
A lot of the running yards was after contact. Ingram consistantly does not get yards after contact so the numbers would have been even worse if he was there.
The running game looked better in the beginning of the game, but the Bears adjusted and shut it down. The short passes compensated for the lack of running game.
They just have to take what they can get every game.
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Old 10-07-2013, 10:57 AM   #52
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You're not a buzzkill. The running game is still lacking. However, I do like how we look with the other backs even though they aren't getting a ton of yards. Unless they get tackled in the back field they are consistently finding positive yardage however small that Ingram just can't get.

It also appeared that we were definitely trying to commit to the run a lot more. I like PT getting 19 carries. I hope that theme keeps up
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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker View Post
Amazing, we average 2.36 yards rushing and still I'm hearing how much better the run game is without Ingram.
PT. 1.9 YPC
Robinson 3.0 YPC
Sproles 3.3 YPC
Collins 3.7 YPC


PT had at least 2 slips.

Our ground game is getting better
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No running game, no problem. Time of possession is supposed to be an indication of a strong ball control running game.

Saints: 36:00
Duh Bears: 24:00

Go figure. Ball control passing attack wins again.
That's true. But remember, our opponents are watching and plotting as we speak (in this case, type....)
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That's true. But remember, our opponents are watching and plotting as we speak (in this case, type....)
Every team has a weakness. What are they going to do? Shut down our non existent run game? Well that plan obviously doesn't work. We're 5-0. Our run pass ratio just needs to stay balanced. Ineffective running still sets up the play action. Drew on play action? Bombs away.
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I see this as a problem also. Right now everything is going ok. BUT at some point we are going to HAVE to run the ball. At this point we would fail.
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Every team has a weakness. What are they going to do? Shut down our non existent run game? Well that plan obviously doesn't work. We're 5-0. Our run pass ratio just needs to stay balanced. Ineffective running still sets up the play action. Drew on play action? Bombs away.
Bingo! I said the same thing earlier, we have a weakness but it's not exploitable.
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PT. 1.9 YPC
Robinson 3.0 YPC
Sproles 3.3 YPC
Collins 3.7 YPC


PT had at least 2 slips.

Our ground game is getting better
We also played a defense missing it's run stopper and we didn't get to 4 yds per carry. Same thing this week against pats, they're missing their run stopper, we need to ave 4 yds a pop.
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Every team has a weakness. Our run pass ratio just needs to stay balanced.
+1. Absolutely.
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Re: No Running Game

I think we showed improvement in the running game on Sunday. We ran well enough in the first half when the game was close. There were some big stuffs for negative yardage and I think we ran into run blitzes a few times so the overall yardage looks worse than it really was.

IMO I think we run better when we are on grass. The game is not so fast and it might be easier for our line to run-block. When we are at home or at an indoor venue it becomes more of a speed game. That's why we saw PT and Collins get the ball more in Chicago, and why we kept feeding Sproles vs the Dolphins. Good game-planning by Coach P.
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