First round draft pick should be a tackle.
 

While I was no fan of how Mike Ditka ran the Saints, at least the one positive thing he did was build a very good offensive line. And that's where games are won and lost. Haslett doesn't seem to put as much emphasis on this as I believe he should. Too often Brooks is being pressured from those positions and so has to make bad throws or bad decisions, which only compound his other problems. We need some big mean tackles and we need them in the worst way.

First round draft pick should be a tackle.
 

as a former o-linemen it is not all he lines fault.. the end are taught to puss the DE\'s around the outside to form a pocket.... many time brooks runs into trouble buy dropping to far back right into the DE\'s line rush... there is a pocket that is supposed to be formed around him, it does not good if he does not stay in it... oline is not what is needed...

how about matt jones , the QB from Arkansas as the first pick...

6\'5\" and runs a 4.3 40??? and can throw the ball 70+ yards?

awesome

[Edited on 12/10/2004 by TheJudge]

First round draft pick should be a tackle.
 

Agree

And cut Gandy ......

First round draft pick should be a tackle.
 

All good ideas, however, I can hear it already:

With the 12th pick of the 2005 draft, the New Orleans Saints select:
\"(Insert name here), defensive lineman from (insert college here)\"

First round draft pick should be a tackle.
 

That may not be such a bad idea.

Saints needs in order of importance, IMO: (Players that is)
LB (all - though Watson is a nice prospect)
DT
CB (you could reverse DT and CB, they\'re both big needs)
C
T
QB

First round draft pick should be a tackle.
 

Who, you might add WR to this list. Horn is scheduled to make huge money next year and I\'m not sure he will restructure his deal.

Other than that little observation, isn\'t it maddening that this list of need positions looks incredibly like lists for the past 4 years with the exception of center?

It\'s enough to drive you to drink.

First round draft pick should be a tackle.
 

there are a few decent LB\'s and o-linemen that are goigng to be free agents next year.... the most important posistion is the qb, he is the leader... when he does not care, so the team goes....

and if you have to send someone making 6 mil a year to leadership classes, what does that say??

get a good young QB out of the draft and work with him... we had a grat prospect in JT o\'Sullivan, but GB has him and i think he will eventually take over the QB spot in a couple years.... many scouts said he is one of the best young talents out there, just needs polishing...

First round draft pick should be a tackle.
 

The O-line has been a HUGE disappointment!! I Montrae Holland is terrible, Gandy get alot of penalties, and it seems to me that Bentley is better at guard(where he made the pro-bowl last year) than center. We DEFINTELY need o-line help!!

PS--Anyone else think letting Fontenot go was a HUGE mistake?!?!

First round draft pick should be a tackle.
 

Been saying this since the rumors that he would be released, started. I\'m not suprised.
I\'ll be posting my top 5 picks in next years draft in my sig, here shortly. We have alot of flexibility this year, as long as we continue to lose and end up with a top 10 pick.
I will say about next years draft, I don\'t care who\'s on the board, if Derrick Johnson is still there, you take him. Been a while since a linebacking prospect of his caliber has been drafted.

First round draft pick should be a tackle.
 

Hey, B-n-B. At the rate the Saints are going, they may be able to take him with the first overall pick.

First round draft pick should be a tackle.
 

BnB... do you watch football? I thought that Derrick Johnson was a CB..

\"if Derrick Johnson is still there, you take him. Been a while since a linebacking prospect of his caliber has been drafted.\" :iamwst:
:thumbsup:

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Methinks you are too quick to try and prove me wrong on anything, young Boccal. You are referring to the Univeristy of Washington DB, Derrick Johnson. But, you failed to notice one of the top seniors in the country, Derrick Johnson, linebacker, University of Texas, for whom I was referring to.
Do you watch enough football?

[Edited on 13/10/2004 by BlackandBlue]

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Ouch, now THAT\'S gonna leave a mark. :iamwst: :rollinglaugh:

First round draft pick should be a tackle.
 

Yeah that was rush on my part lol! See sometimes my Bi-polar gets the best of me and I am powerless. This is one of those times when I will take my foot out of my mouth just long enough to say I’m sorry. But you are right he’s the best tackler I’ve seen since Joe Montana. :seeingstars:

First round draft pick should be a tackle.
 

Tackler? but I thought Joe Montana played wide receiver... oh well, I must\'ve been thinking of Joe Isuzu.

First round draft pick should be a tackle.
 

Dberce.....
12TH PICK????
More like 5th

First round draft pick should be a tackle.
 

I\'ve never seen this guy play, but I\'ve seen this guy in the #1 position on mock drafts. He sounds like a veritable beast. And LB is certainly the need position in my mind.

When was the last time a LB went in the #1 spot?

First round draft pick should be a tackle.
 

LT went with the #2, that\'s the highest I can think of. Arrington was the last to go top 5, and he went #3.

First round draft pick should be a tackle.
 

I caught that Boccal.

You\'ve been playing Foosball behind my back?! OOWWW!

First round draft pick should be a tackle.
 

It\'s only happened four times, and one of those was Benarik, who was at least half center.

Year - Player - Pos - School - Team - Years Played - Pro Bowls
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1949 - Chuck Bednarik - c/lb - Pennsylvania - Philadelphia - 12 - 8
1966 - Tommy Nobis - lb - Texas - Atlanta - 11 - 5
1979 - Tom Cousineau - lb - Ohio State - Buffalo - 6 - 0
1988 - Aundray Bruce - lb - Auburn - Atlanta - 11 - 0
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I\'m getting excited thinking about this. If Haz is gone, we might actually draft this guy... though I\'m sure he\'ll go in the top ten. And this time we won\'t have 17 and 18 to package together.

Man, this is a shame..... Here it is, early October, and here I am already past the season, looking at the draft. When will this team finally reward the fans.

Thirty-seven years is too long.

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yea, but he is from texas... do you guys really want anything taht has to do with taht team?? they are not used to showing up at big games.... and every game in the pros is beig... :)

seriouss though he is a great LB and we could you one to replace the druggy....

but i still like matt jones out of Arkansas.. maybe trade up to get two first rounders.(or EARLY second)

First round draft pick should be a tackle.
 

speaking of druggies....

:doh:

First round draft pick should be a tackle.
 

1. What position are you wanting to draft Jones at?

2. If you\'re talking WR, then sure, but I wouldn\'t spend a 1st round pick on him.

3. If you\'re talking QB--Why do you want to draft another sandlot player who is at his best when freelancing and has a career marked by making dumb decisions that either get you the win by sheer dumb luck or cost you the game when all you need is a field goal.

4. I see Jones play every weekend. I can see him going on the 1st day, but not in the first round. He isn\'t the best QB in the SEC, much less college football.

I agree that we will need to draft a QB, but I hope that the new head coach will prioritize other areas first. There is probably no one on this board than me that wants a new QB, I just don\'t see how Jones is it. It would be 5 more years of the Aaron Brooks debate.

First round draft pick should be a tackle.
 

Aaron Brooks isn\'t always the consistent starter that we all want. He still makes mistakes, fumbles, makes slow decisions and bad reads, etc.

But if I was going to draft a QB next year, I\'d draft a QB in the 3rd round at the earliest who had some pretty solid stats. He\'d have to show a good work ethic, someone who could make Aaron think that his starting job was in jeopardy.

Oh no, I\'m getting Aaron Brooks into a debate about draft picks. :casstet:

Quickly! Back to Derrick Johnson!

Derrick seems to be a solid, consistent player on the Texas defense. But he looks like he\'d be in the top 5 list. Now the question remains: will the Saints do poorly enough to get the 5th overall pick or better?



[Edited on 14/10/2004 by themightyduck]

First round draft pick should be a tackle.
 

I\'m guessing we finish around .500 again (which is not a good thing) so we will should be looking at Ahmed Brooks (LB, Virginia), if he comes out or Kirk Morrison (LB, San Diego ST).

If Rod Wright (DT, texas) comes out and is on the board, we should consider him as well. There is also Anttaj Hawthorne (DT, wisconsin).

For those that say OL - Alex Barron (OT, FSU) is tops and I would be all for drafting him. Jammal Brown (OT, Oklahoma) is another possibility. If every other option is gone, we could go with Michael Munoz (OT, Tennessee). USC\'s LT - Winston Justice was suspended. Not sure if he is a JR or a SR. Assuming he is the later, he would be a great mid-round pick (he was projected 1st round).

And there is always CB. If we totally bomb this season and get a top 5 pick (would have to be higher than the pick the Cowboys are getting from the Bills), we would HAVE to take Antrel Rolle (CB, Miami). There are projections now with him going #1 overall. When was the last time a CB had that much hype?
If we got that high pick and Rolle is gone, Derrick Johnson should be the pick (as others mentioned).

Whatever the case, we got tons of options.

First round draft pick should be a tackle.
 

:o How about center, so bentley can go back to his original spot.
CB, LB, maybe even QB by the season\'s end!!

First round draft pick should be a tackle.
 

I think people are overracting about our need for a Center. That is a tough position to switch too, especially in the NFL. I think Bentley will be a great center (though I agree that he isn\'t right now).

As for draft picks, Hawthorne is a complete beast! I like him a lot. However, I think we have a much bigger need at LB.

Here are my positional picks (provided Thomas can get healthy and play at the level he did last year):

1. LB (preferably MLB so that Watson can move to WLB).
2. DT
3. CB (I think two and three are roughly equal in terms of need right now, but DTs have impact sooner, so I think that will benefit us more).
4. OT (I\'m not convinced that you can get a great OT much outside the first two rounds, but I say try)
5. S (I know few people will agree with this, but T-buck is fine though not great, and Bellamy will soon be VERY old).
6. QB (We need a back up)

First round draft pick should be a tackle.
 

I actually agree with just about everything you said J. Granola. Nice post. ;)

First round draft pick should be a tackle.
 

I also think we need to use the first pick for a QB and the second for a MLB. If Brooks can\'t get it done this year let him ride the bench for the last few years of his contract. He\'s a pretty good number two.

First round draft pick should be a tackle.
 

Who,

Some days you bring a smile to my face. I\'m glad we agree on this one.

We have a QB. He\'s a fine starter in this league. Sure he gives us fits, but there are only a handful of QBs starting in this league who wouldn\'t give us fits. Brett Favre is a total stud, but some days he looks WAY worse than good ol\' AB.

Why would we WASTE a high pick on a QB when our D needs so much help?