Loss to pats on Payton and Brees

UK_WhoDat · 10-14-2013, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

I think your right with the ego assumption.
Anytime Brees has a 47% completion rating you know something has gone wrong. Has Brees ever had that low of a percentage?

Recent low completion percentage games are:
(Year; Game number %age)
2013:2 56.5%, Tampa
2012:13 56.0%; Atlanta
2012:8 52.4%;
2012:3 55.6%;
2012:1 46.2%
Drew Brees: Game Logs at NFL.com
Question. Were any of these also ego driven?

SaintsBro · 10-14-2013, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat

Question. Were any of these also ego driven?

Well I have said for a long time that the loss to Atlanta last year was "ego-driven" because of the streak. The Falcons knew that Brees and Carmichael were gonna go for the TD pass, whenever possible, and they did a really great job of taking it away from him, and keeping the passing game in front of them. The Falcons had a "whatever you do, don't give up the big passing play" mentality on defense. The more the game went on, the more desperate Brees got, and next thing you know it was the badly forced two minute drive to end the half, and then it turned into interception city in the second half.

I don't think in the Graham case yesterday it was "ego." I think it was just, dependency --the thing has *always* worked before, and they had gotten a little too reliant on going to him.

blackangold · 10-14-2013, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat

Recent low completion percentage games are:
(Year; Game number %age)
2013:2 56.5%, Tampa
2012:13 56.0%; Atlanta
2012:8 52.4%;
2012:3 55.6%;
2012:1 46.2%
Drew Brees: Game Logs at NFL.com
Question. Were any of these also ego driven?

Ego driven or not the only game we won on that list was this year against Tampa. Brees has a bad game and we lose (typically). It has been a great start to the season and being 5-1 at this point is better than I thought (4-2). We have an easy shot at the #2 seed, and we'll fight for #1.

One thing is for sure, had the NE game been played in the DOME we walk away with an easy win.

Vrillon82 · 10-15-2013, 12:13 AM

Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat

Recent low completion percentage games are:
(Year; Game number %age)
2013:2 56.5%, Tampa
2012:13 56.0%; Atlanta
2012:8 52.4%;
2012:3 55.6%;
2012:1 46.2%
Drew Brees: Game Logs at NFL.com
Question. Were any of these also ego driven?

Could be.

NE game he was often looking at 2 places, Jimmy Graham or down field for a big play and neither was there most of the game.

10-14-2013, 04:52 PM	#3
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat Recent low completion percentage games are: (Year; Game number %age) 2013:2 56.5%, Tampa 2012:13 56.0%; Atlanta 2012:8 52.4%; 2012:3 55.6%; 2012:1 46.2% Drew Brees: Game Logs at NFL.com Question. Were any of these also ego driven? Ego driven or not the only game we won on that list was this year against Tampa. Brees has a bad game and we lose (typically). It has been a great start to the season and being 5-1 at this point is better than I thought (4-2). We have an easy shot at the #2 seed, and we'll fight for #1. One thing is for sure, had the NE game been played in the DOME we walk away with an easy win.

10-15-2013, 12:13 AM	#4
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat Recent low completion percentage games are: (Year; Game number %age) 2013:2 56.5%, Tampa 2012:13 56.0%; Atlanta 2012:8 52.4%; 2012:3 55.6%; 2012:1 46.2% Drew Brees: Game Logs at NFL.com Question. Were any of these also ego driven? Could be. NE game he was often looking at 2 places, Jimmy Graham or down field for a big play and neither was there most of the game.
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UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,825	Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees Originally Posted by blackangold I think your right with the ego assumption. Anytime Brees has a 47% completion rating you know something has gone wrong. Has Brees ever had that low of a percentage? Recent low completion percentage games are: (Year; Game number %age) 2013:2 56.5%, Tampa 2012:13 56.0%; Atlanta 2012:8 52.4%; 2012:3 55.6%; 2012:1 46.2% Drew Brees: Game Logs at NFL.com Question. Were any of these also ego driven?

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SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Loss to pats on Payton and Brees Originally Posted by UK_WhoDat Question. Were any of these also ego driven? Well I have said for a long time that the loss to Atlanta last year was "ego-driven" because of the streak. The Falcons knew that Brees and Carmichael were gonna go for the TD pass, whenever possible, and they did a really great job of taking it away from him, and keeping the passing game in front of them. The Falcons had a "whatever you do, don't give up the big passing play" mentality on defense. The more the game went on, the more desperate Brees got, and next thing you know it was the badly forced two minute drive to end the half, and then it turned into interception city in the second half. I don't think in the Graham case yesterday it was "ego." I think it was just, dependency --the thing has always worked before, and they had gotten a little too reliant on going to him.