Jimmy Graham getting an MRI on his foot

Jack Vegas · 10-14-2013, 02:26 PM

You guys are going to kill me for this.

I think it would do the offense good if Graham sat out a game or two. He is an amazing, amazing player but we have come to lean on him too much. This might be a chance to get the offense back into balance.

dizzle88 · 10-14-2013, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

You guys are going to kill me for this.

I think it would do the offense good if Graham sat out a game or two. He is an amazing, amazing player but we have come to lean on him too much. This might be a chance to get the offense back into balance.

I dont think its graham who has to be subjected to that, I think payton and brees need to stop relying on him too much

For the first two quarters, graham ran a slant route and brees watched him run it for about 5 seconds, then threw incomplete

Bring Khiry robinson and pierre in more, use colston and ben watson!!

Jack Vegas · 10-14-2013, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I dont think its graham who has to be subjected to that, I think payton and brees need to stop relying on him too much

Well, if he misses time they will be forced to.

I think both on playcalling on Payton's end, and throwing the ball from Brees' end, getting the ball to Graham is the "safest" thing to do and that's why they do it so often. Our offense has too many tendencies right now.

Halo · 10-14-2013, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

You guys are going to kill me for this.

I think it would do the offense good if Graham sat out a game or two. He is an amazing, amazing player but we have come to lean on him too much. This might be a chance to get the offense back into balance.

I wouldn't kill you. WTF happened to Colston?? Where is Meachum other than "SUPRISE, we're going deep to Meach!"?? What happened to spreading the ball around to several different receivers during the game?

Too much emphasis on Graham for 2.5 quarters of the game. When we started running the ball (and we did so with authority) is when we started winning the game. I think our ole ball coach Payton is a little rusty on the playcalls.

dizzle88 · 10-14-2013, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

I wouldn't kill you. WTF happened to Colston?? Where is Meachum other than "SUPRISE, we're going deep to Meach!"?? What happened to spreading the ball around to several different receivers during the game?

Too much emphasis on Graham for 2.5 quarters of the game. When we started running the ball (and we did so with authority) is when we started winning the game. I think our ole ball coach Payton is a little rusty on the playcalls.

Offense has become predictable my friend, when meachem is in he runs a post route or run blocks

When graham is outwide he runs a slant or a fade, when colston is in he runs a seam route from the slot

We could all guess 10 plays and im guessing from the formations, we'd get 8 of them right

UK_WhoDat · 10-14-2013, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Offense has become predictable my friend, when meachem is in he runs a post route or run blocks

When graham is out wide he runs a slant or a fade, when colston is in he runs a seam route from the slot

We could all guess 10 plays and im guessing from the formations, we'd get 8 of them right

True dat. Not mention when Ingram is in that ....

Originally Posted by dueceloose

Maybe drew was starring down jimmy because no one else was getting open or

if only that was true, for despite how good the mauling Patriots D, there were guys open that Brees checkdown "failed" to identify.

Originally Posted by Boutte

.... Graham is like a drug habit for Payton and Brees. ....

And some drug it is, rarely failing to give a high this year. Overdosing on Graham last night proved fatal.

mike27 · 10-16-2013, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

You guys are going to kill me for this.

I think it would do the offense good if Graham sat out a game or two. He is an amazing, amazing player but we have come to lean on him too much. This might be a chance to get the offense back into balance.

I think you are exactly correct--but to be fair, Brees does spread the ball around pretty well, maybe this year slightly less.

I suppose this was a humbling week for Graham and his salary negotiations then. I suppose he should get paid at least as much as the best though. It seems like he should've made a few of those catches, but was kind of hot-dogging it, one-handing the ball.

But let's face it, the offense started very sluggishly, then the last two series they totally changed tactics, ran the ball six times. They knew they needed a first down, at least one, and I think maybe a screen pass, or something rather than a straight run should've been called, even with the interception risk. Runs have been shut down somewhere between 0 and -1 yards all year.

AsylumGuido · 10-16-2013, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by mike27

I think you are exactly correct--but to be fair, Brees does spread the ball around pretty well, maybe this year slightly less.

I suppose this was a humbling week for Graham and his salary negotiations then. I suppose he should get paid at least as much as the best though. It seems like he should've made a few of those catches, but was kind of hot-dogging it, one-handing the ball.

But let's face it, the offense started very sluggishly, then the last two series they totally changed tactics, ran the ball six times. They knew they needed a first down, at least one, and I think maybe a screen pass, or something rather than a straight run should've been called, even with the interception risk. Runs have been shut down somewhere between 0 and -1 yards all year.

That wasn't hot-dogging. Talib, usually had hold of the other arm.

10-14-2013, 02:26 PM	#1
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Jimmy Graham getting an MRI on his foot You guys are going to kill me for this. I think it would do the offense good if Graham sat out a game or two. He is an amazing, amazing player but we have come to lean on him too much. This might be a chance to get the offense back into balance. Boutte, AlaskaSaints, pinch and 1 others like this.
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10-14-2013, 02:28 PM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,546	Re: Jimmy Graham getting an MRI on his foot Originally Posted by Jack Vegas You guys are going to kill me for this. I think it would do the offense good if Graham sat out a game or two. He is an amazing, amazing player but we have come to lean on him too much. This might be a chance to get the offense back into balance. I dont think its graham who has to be subjected to that, I think payton and brees need to stop relying on him too much For the first two quarters, graham ran a slant route and brees watched him run it for about 5 seconds, then threw incomplete Bring Khiry robinson and pierre in more, use colston and ben watson!! Michigan_SF, onebyone and MarchingOn like this.

10-14-2013, 02:33 PM	#3
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Jimmy Graham getting an MRI on his foot Originally Posted by dizzle88 I dont think its graham who has to be subjected to that, I think payton and brees need to stop relying on him too much Well, if he misses time they will be forced to. I think both on playcalling on Payton's end, and throwing the ball from Brees' end, getting the ball to Graham is the "safest" thing to do and that's why they do it so often. Our offense has too many tendencies right now.
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10-14-2013, 02:28 PM	#4
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,907 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Jimmy Graham getting an MRI on his foot Originally Posted by Jack Vegas You guys are going to kill me for this. I think it would do the offense good if Graham sat out a game or two. He is an amazing, amazing player but we have come to lean on him too much. This might be a chance to get the offense back into balance. I wouldn't kill you. WTF happened to Colston?? Where is Meachum other than "SUPRISE, we're going deep to Meach!"?? What happened to spreading the ball around to several different receivers during the game? Too much emphasis on Graham for 2.5 quarters of the game. When we started running the ball (and we did so with authority) is when we started winning the game. I think our ole ball coach Payton is a little rusty on the playcalls. Rueben Mayes, MarchingOn and WHODATINCA like this.

10-14-2013, 02:31 PM	#5
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,546	Re: Jimmy Graham getting an MRI on his foot Originally Posted by Halo I wouldn't kill you. WTF happened to Colston?? Where is Meachum other than "SUPRISE, we're going deep to Meach!"?? What happened to spreading the ball around to several different receivers during the game? Too much emphasis on Graham for 2.5 quarters of the game. When we started running the ball (and we did so with authority) is when we started winning the game. I think our ole ball coach Payton is a little rusty on the playcalls. Offense has become predictable my friend, when meachem is in he runs a post route or run blocks When graham is outwide he runs a slant or a fade, when colston is in he runs a seam route from the slot We could all guess 10 plays and im guessing from the formations, we'd get 8 of them right

10-14-2013, 03:35 PM	#6
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,004	Re: Jimmy Graham getting an MRI on his foot Originally Posted by dizzle88 Offense has become predictable my friend, when meachem is in he runs a post route or run blocks When graham is out wide he runs a slant or a fade, when colston is in he runs a seam route from the slot We could all guess 10 plays and im guessing from the formations, we'd get 8 of them right True dat. Not mention when Ingram is in that .... Originally Posted by dueceloose Maybe drew was starring down jimmy because no one else was getting open or if only that was true, for despite how good the mauling Patriots D, there were guys open that Brees checkdown "failed" to identify. Originally Posted by Boutte .... Graham is like a drug habit for Payton and Brees. .... And some drug it is, rarely failing to give a high this year. Overdosing on Graham last night proved fatal.

10-16-2013, 11:01 AM	#7
mike27 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 104 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Jimmy Graham getting an MRI on his foot Originally Posted by Jack Vegas You guys are going to kill me for this. I think it would do the offense good if Graham sat out a game or two. He is an amazing, amazing player but we have come to lean on him too much. This might be a chance to get the offense back into balance. I think you are exactly correct--but to be fair, Brees does spread the ball around pretty well, maybe this year slightly less. I suppose this was a humbling week for Graham and his salary negotiations then. I suppose he should get paid at least as much as the best though. It seems like he should've made a few of those catches, but was kind of hot-dogging it, one-handing the ball. But let's face it, the offense started very sluggishly, then the last two series they totally changed tactics, ran the ball six times. They knew they needed a first down, at least one, and I think maybe a screen pass, or something rather than a straight run should've been called, even with the interception risk. Runs have been shut down somewhere between 0 and -1 yards all year.

10-16-2013, 11:12 AM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,762	Re: Jimmy Graham getting an MRI on his foot Originally Posted by mike27 I think you are exactly correct--but to be fair, Brees does spread the ball around pretty well, maybe this year slightly less. I suppose this was a humbling week for Graham and his salary negotiations then. I suppose he should get paid at least as much as the best though. It seems like he should've made a few of those catches, but was kind of hot-dogging it, one-handing the ball. But let's face it, the offense started very sluggishly, then the last two series they totally changed tactics, ran the ball six times. They knew they needed a first down, at least one, and I think maybe a screen pass, or something rather than a straight run should've been called, even with the interception risk. Runs have been shut down somewhere between 0 and -1 yards all year. That wasn't hot-dogging. Talib, usually had hold of the other arm. Rugby Saint II and TheOak like this.

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