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triman 10-16-2013 11:06 PM

Bye week draft thoughts
 
Seeing that it is the bye week I thought it would be a good idea to talk about the draft.I surfed the web and compared several mocks.Looking at the players that might be available at the picks we have I came up with these picks.
Rd1 Trent Murphy OLB
RD2 Jackson Jeffcoat 34DE
RD3 Jarvis Landry Wr

Thoughts Ideas Opinions ?

These are the players that I liked in the range WE pick.
I think that we need in order of need Pass rushers,OL,and WR
CB is also a possibility

DemonicSaint 10-16-2013 11:38 PM

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It would be nice to have a shutdown CB, but those aren't very common. The offensive line seems to be gelling, so I don't know about that, yet. Anyways, the draft is quite a while away, so it doesn't really need to be talked about yet.

Jesus, the bye week is worse than the offseason. >.>

|Mitch| 10-16-2013 11:45 PM

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Way to early; I can't even think about the draft right now. I'll leave that up to the thousands of disappointed Falcons fans... :bng:

hagan714 10-17-2013 07:21 AM

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never to early lol

saintsfan1976 10-17-2013 07:52 AM

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OL

Budsdrinker 10-17-2013 08:01 AM

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OLine

lsutigerfan 10-17-2013 08:52 AM

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1st Kyle Van Noy- OLB
2nd Justin Gilbert- CB
3rd Shane Skov- MLB

exile 10-17-2013 09:02 AM

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http://walterfootball.com/images/fball/saintsb_logo.gif New Orleans Saints: Scott Crichton, DE/OLB, Oregon State http://walterfootball.com/college/OregonState_logo.gif
The Saints had several holes to fill in the 2013 NFL Draft, so they weren't able to obtain a pass-rusher until the sixth round with Rufus Johnson. They'll probably need to do so earlier next April.

mighty12 10-17-2013 09:55 AM

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the 32nd pick

jeanpierre 10-17-2013 10:50 AM

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Never, ever too early to talk draft...

While you always take the BPA, especially when a great talent falls, all things being equal...

Draft Needs:

1) Offensive Line
2) Linebacker
3) Quarterback
4) Cornerback

Seer1 10-17-2013 11:26 AM

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A new OL coach?

lsutigerfan 10-17-2013 01:25 PM

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You guys need to check out this mock draft.

Alan's 2014 NFL Mock Draft- Part 2 10/17 | Fanspeak's NFL Draft Blog

jeanpierre 10-17-2013 01:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lsutigerfan (Post 539064)

We're picking 32...sweet

...and taking another Standford DE who's built for the 43 while we're transitioning to a 34...alot will change...

I wish we could move into the Top 5 (by trade) and select OT Jake Matthews...

|Mitch| 10-17-2013 02:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 539066)
We're picking 32...sweet

...and taking another Standford DE who's built for the 43 while we're transitioning to a 34...alot will change...

Trent Murphy at 6'6" 260, could make one hell of a 3-4 OLB and move down on the line in our 4 man front.

Ryan could seriously disguise formations...

In fact: Murphy already plays at OLB for Stanford...

hagan714 10-17-2013 05:49 PM

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ok draft time i love the bye week

hmmm sign or tag Graham makes no difference. either way we are going to loss a player or two. Not enough money to compete with other offers or moves to free up money.

May not have enough money to compete with other offers:

Malcolm Jenkins at Safety
Brian De La Puente at Center

rezburna 10-17-2013 05:55 PM

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Take best player available. Forget need.

Utah_Saint 10-17-2013 06:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 539033)
Never, ever too early to talk draft...

While you always take the BPA, especially when a great talent falls, all things being equal...

Draft Needs:

1) Offensive Line
2) Linebacker
3) Quarterback
4) Cornerback

Good list, although I don't know if we should spend a pick on a QB just yet. Just my opinion but I think we just keep picking up the journeymen that float around the league for a year or two more. A bit closer to the end of Drew's contract.

TheOak 10-17-2013 06:34 PM

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Footballs don't have fur and lemons can't swim.

hagan714 10-17-2013 06:46 PM

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dreams are hard to watch coming of the board

C.J. Mosley, OLB/ILB, Alabama - perfect fit for the defense. ILB/OLB that excels at pass defense. yep ILB first in my book

Cyril Richardson, ROT/G, Baylor - just what the dr orders for Ingram and saints running game. Unless he is really slow out of the blocks i can see no reason he can not man the ROT position

Alas they will be gone. so i am torn right now on these 5 at the mid season mark. Nice thing about pick so low in the draft area of needs seem to be working out as BPA

- Bishop Sankey, RB, Washington Huskies
Height: 5094. Weight: 203
Projected 40 Time: 4.49

Catch Phrases: speedy, shifty, good size, excellent body control, balance, through-hole vision, Good hands out of the backfield, too. All have tried to stop him and all have failed

But it would be the end of Ingram and the saints. If so i hope he ends up in a power running game were he belongs and can flourish.

- Kyle Van Noy, OLB, BYU
Height: 6-3. Weight: 235.
Projected 40 Time: 4.65

He is exactly what the Saints OLB core needs. He is a solid blitzer. Solid at the point of attack. BUT he excels in pass defense. A BIG VOID IN THE SAINTS DEFENSE. LB that can cover. Only wish can he slide inside?

- James Hurst, LOT, North Carolina

Height: 6-7. Weight: 310.
Projected 40 Time: 5.25.

book end LT? why not. he may not look pretty but he has been getting the job done the past two years in the SEC.

- Aaron Colvin, CB, Oklahoma
Height: 6-0. Weight: 181.
Projected 40 Time: 4.48

He is solid and has done nothing but made positive moves in his draft value all year. He may not be flashy but he is looking to be one of the better all round CB in the draft

- Ed Reynolds, FS/SS Stanford

Height: 6-2 Weight: 206
Projected 40 Time: 4.54

Ball hawking is not an issue here neither is his smarts. the issue is is tackling. he has shown improvement so i have keep him on the list. I just can not take him off my short list.

Player that scares me the most is

Khalil Mack, OLB, Buffalo
Height: 6-3. Weight: 245.
Projected 40 Time: 4.69

he did great in the preseason warm games this year but really is he first round material? Is he worth the risk? this years early wild card Cinderella story


Shut down CB? Flashy BUT

Loucheiz Purifoy*, CB, Florida
Height: 6-1. Weight: 189.
Projected 40 Time: 4.42

Talent and skills set are there but after the LSU game I have serious issues with him. Or was the WR from LSU that good? i am leaning to a big yes on the LSU wide outs

Bradley Roby*, CB, Ohio State
Height: 5-11. Weight: 190.
Projected 40 Time: 4.46

Play has been solid for the most part but a few games leave me wondering

hagan714 10-17-2013 07:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by exile (Post 539025)
http://walterfootball.com/images/fball/saintsb_logo.gif New Orleans Saints: Scott Crichton, DE/OLB, Oregon State http://walterfootball.com/college/OregonState_logo.gif
The Saints had several holes to fill in the 2013 NFL Draft, so they weren't able to obtain a pass-rusher until the sixth round with Rufus Johnson. They'll probably need to do so earlier next April.

See this is wear i disagree with many pre drafts. i like the player but the saints really are not and have not as big of a need for pass rushers at the OLB/DE position as people swear they do. DE I think we have a a solid DE with another still developing. OLB is not an issue either when it comes to pass rush

So i am happy here but wishing for a more complete package

The Key need and biggest need is to address is pass coverage skill at OLB and ILB. Saints do not have the skill set to defend the mid range passing game. short slants and such are almost impossible to defend. it the 10 yard and 15 yard range were the team is glaring weak. Right now none of the ILB/OLB have shown the reaction skill set to shore up this weakness in the defense.

So pass rush is last on my list. Stout against the run and excels in pass coverage are the phrases i look for and watch for

saintfan 10-17-2013 07:13 PM

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I am officially declaring myself eligible - still looking for an agent...

http://www.orble.com/images/agent-smith-matrix1.jpg

K Major 10-17-2013 07:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 539124)
dreams are hard to watch coming of the board


Talent and skills set are there but after the LSU game I have serious issues with him. Or was the WR from LSU that good? i am leaning to a big yes on the LSU wide outs

Yes sir Hagan714 I agree...LSU WR's are that good. Odell B and Landry are probably the best 1,2 tandem in the country ... they will be off the board early come draft day.

triman 10-17-2013 08:09 PM

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Landry is ODBs equal really catches the ball well.

lsutigerfan 10-17-2013 09:51 PM

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A guy I really like OLB from Clemson Vic Beasley.

hagan714 10-17-2013 11:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 539133)
Yes sir Hagan714 I agree...LSU WR's are that good. Odell B and Landry are probably the best 1,2 tandem in the country ... they will be off the board early come draft day.

question is will they come out? I really think draft grades are going to be key. this year looks good for for the glamor boys QBs in the first.

WR are pretty deep also. it will be interesting to see what they do

jeanpierre 10-18-2013 05:37 AM

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Regarding the LSU WR early entry into the draft question: Will they risk their performances from this year to play with ANOTHER quarterback next year as Zach Mettenberger is a senior, guaranteeing a different quarterback next season?!?

lsutigerfan 10-18-2013 01:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 539202)
Regarding the LSU WR early entry into the draft question: Will they risk their performances from this year to play with ANOTHER quarterback next year as Zach Mettenberger is a senior, guaranteeing a different quarterback next season?!?

Bingo, i believe they will come out. As of right now IMO, B
Odell is a 2nd rounder And Jarvis in a 3rd or 4th.

K Major 10-18-2013 01:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 539202)
Regarding the LSU WR early entry into the draft question: Will they risk their performances from this year to play with ANOTHER quarterback next year as Zach Mettenberger is a senior, guaranteeing a different quarterback next season?!?

+1 & point well taken JP ... I think they both are gone after this season.

hagan714 10-18-2013 02:21 PM

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if that is the case then a wr at the bottom of round 1 would work for me. there are some good wr this year. glamor positions will be strong

QBREES9 10-18-2013 11:49 PM

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To early for me.

Danno 10-19-2013 12:33 PM

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Talking draft needs is kinda irrelevant before free agency isn't it?

Barry from MS 10-19-2013 01:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 539112)
ok draft time i love the bye week

hmmm sign or tag Graham makes no difference. either way we are going to loss a player or two. Not enough money to compete with other offers or moves to free up money.

May not have enough money to compete with other offers:

Malcolm Jenkins at Safety
Brian De La Puente at Center

Love all your draft takes. Very detailed.

My "detailed" 2014 draft take? BPA, and I'd like to see a QB at BPA AFTER 1st round. Brees will be around for a few more years, but wouldn't it be completely awesome to have a QB step into the offense and it not skip a beat? Kinda like Favre-to-Rodgers. Thinking future here, but we won't get BPA QB with 32nd pick unless Bridgewater falls (huh huh, water falls), so:

Hundley, UCLA, @ 2nd round or
Murray, Georgia, @ 4th round or
Meat-burger, LSU, @ 4th round

Bit of an SEC-homer, but Murray and Meat-burger are facing good competition year to year with at least 5-6 games per year against NFL-level defensive talent. Murray gets the edge considering he is without the weapons Meat-burger has this year and is also a 4-year starter in the SEC.

Manziel does not factor with me. He will make a bit more money in the NFL than he currently does at A&M, so the classlessness he's shown in college will just magically disappear when he gets even more money? No. And those "miracle" plays he makes now does not translate to the NFL, so don't compare him to Favre in that regard (Favre's "miracle" plays at USM was because of his otherworldly arm). He is a poor man's Vick with even more turn-overs. This dude is a bust-of-epic-proportions-waiting-to-happen. If we draft him I will vomit in my mouth.

Wow...that escalated quickly. Didn't mean for that to turn into a Manziel-is-the-devil thread.

halloween 65 10-19-2013 03:23 PM

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2 studs on the O-line and a true ILB and a big, fast nasty get in your face corner and I believe we could go a long way for a long time. And if Robinson becomes a stud RB that makes 1 back trade bait, I would like to see us pile up the picks and send a message to Goddell that we are here to stay.

hagan714 10-20-2013 12:41 AM

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New Orleans Saints: Scott Crichton, DE/OLB, Oregon State

I just watched the kid play. interesting pick. i will have to keep an on the beaver

hagan714 10-20-2013 12:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry from MS (Post 539548)
Love all your draft takes. Very detailed

thanks i actually try watch as many as i can play. nice selection of players also

JuWaun James, OT, Tennessee

I have been watching him play of and on for about 2 years I think the kid can handle RT in the NFL. not completely sold but impressed as a solid mid round pick

by the way i hate the first round! always happier when some one falls into your lap

Barry from MS 10-20-2013 03:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 539639)
thanks i actually try watch as many as i can play. nice selection of players also

JuWaun James, OT, Tennessee

I have been watching him play of and on for about 2 years I think the kid can handle RT in the NFL. not completely sold but impressed as a solid mid round pick

by the way i hate the first round! always happier when some one falls into your lap

No kidding. Buy low, sell high = get 1st round talent in the 2nd/3rd round (see J. Jenkins). I like the James kid, too, and UT O-line has a pretty good pedigree in the NFL. Currently sitting at 3-4 rounder and did a pretty solid job against the SC Fightin' Clowneys yesterday. Good sleeper pick.

lsutigerfan 10-20-2013 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry from MS (Post 539641)
No kidding. Buy low, sell high = get 1st round talent in the 2nd/3rd round (see J. Jenkins). I like the James kid, too, and UT O-line has a pretty good pedigree in the NFL. Currently sitting at 3-4 rounder and did a pretty solid job against the SC Fightin' Clowneys yesterday. Good sleeper pick.

Actually Clowney abused him pretty good.

lee909 10-20-2013 04:20 AM

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I start watching players now but with the way players shoot up or down two/three rounds on the back of .2 seconds in the combine its hard to judge yet.

Barry from MS 10-20-2013 07:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lsutigerfan (Post 539642)
Actually Clowney abused him pretty good.

We are talking about the next Reggie White slash LT, though ;) against a projected 3-4th round Tackle. I saw him make a few good run blocks, and UT ran for 146 overall. Clowney makes many, many O-lineman look bad, and he'll abuse one-on-one any and every day.

MaggieMayTB 10-20-2013 08:24 AM

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We should keep our eye on JJ's brothers, Derek and TJ in Wisconsin.


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