Right Under Our Eyes

jeanpierre · 10-23-2013, 11:25 PM

Have been watching (rewatching) some of the Saints games from this season and while they may not be at the same talent level (yet), the Saints defensive formation is awfully similar to the early version of the "46" defense as it was first put in Chicago...

I know for most it's a "Who Cares - It Works" philosophy, but I was taken aback when I pulled some 80's Bears Defense formations and really wanted to tip my hat to the coaching staff for taking the best players and using a formation that maximizes and complements our best talent in that way...

Way to Geaux!

|Mitch| · 10-23-2013, 11:35 PM

well Rob Ryan is the son of Buddy, he who which created the "46" defense and made it famous as the D coordinator of the Bears and then as the head coach of the Eagles

QBREES9 · 10-24-2013, 12:02 AM

Rob Ryan still a fan.

Utah_Saint · 10-24-2013, 10:02 AM

Ryan's played the 4-6 everywhere he's been. I think that's a big part of why Harper and Bush have looked better this year. The 4-6 gives a "thumper" Safety a chance to shine.

Choupique · 10-24-2013, 11:24 AM

The players love Ryan, as a Coach and as a man.

It is obvious. It glows like a light.

Tres bon. Fun to watch that level of passion.

Two Dat. Dome Patrol is Back!

dueceloose · 10-24-2013, 12:24 PM

Let's hope this continues this week

Rugby Saint II · 10-24-2013, 01:00 PM

At least it isn't confusing our players instead of theirs..........

hagan714 · 10-24-2013, 01:07 PM

when it not a 46 they are in a base 43 more than 34.

pats figured it out and now the rest of the nfl knows what to do against it. pats are an above average team at best but their coaches are top notch

lets see what adjustments are made by Roy Boy now that the cat is out of the bag. if we do nothing really different it will be a very long month

|Mitch| · 10-24-2013, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

when it not a 46 they are in a base 43 more than 34.

The 46 is the 4-3, just aligned differently

I thought they were mainly playing a 3-3-5 with 3 safeties?

jeanpierre · 10-24-2013, 05:17 PM

Mitch you can take that alignment and flip it as we don't overload the weakside, but engage the strongside (i.e. Tight End, usually the Right Tackle)...

A big difference is in the way the "gaps" are assigned, which I think let's the players attack instead of diagnose and react...

Gotta disagree with my brother Hagan though, Saints came out with adjustmentS and was puttin the woodshed treatment to the Patties until Saints called off the dogs (i.e. Payton stopped running the ball, Rob-Boy rushed 3 in a prevent against a QB like Brady), a mistake our coaches won't make again...

We'll be fine, but it's fun and interesting to watch this amalgam defense evolve and adapt though...

10-23-2013, 11:25 PM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Right Under Our Eyes Have been watching (rewatching) some of the Saints games from this season and while they may not be at the same talent level (yet), the Saints defensive formation is awfully similar to the early version of the "46" defense as it was first put in Chicago... I know for most it's a "Who Cares - It Works" philosophy, but I was taken aback when I pulled some 80's Bears Defense formations and really wanted to tip my hat to the coaching staff for taking the best players and using a formation that maximizes and complements our best talent in that way... Way to Geaux! hagan714, TheOak, thebdj and 1 others like this.
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10-23-2013, 11:35 PM	#2
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Right Under Our Eyes well Rob Ryan is the son of Buddy, he who which created the "46" defense and made it famous as the D coordinator of the Bears and then as the head coach of the Eagles TheOak likes this.

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QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: Right Under Our Eyes Rob Ryan still a fan.

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Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Right Under Our Eyes Ryan's played the 4-6 everywhere he's been. I think that's a big part of why Harper and Bush have looked better this year. The 4-6 gives a "thumper" Safety a chance to shine. Danno likes this.

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Choupique 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2,594	Re: Right Under Our Eyes The players love Ryan, as a Coach and as a man. It is obvious. It glows like a light. Tres bon. Fun to watch that level of passion. Two Dat. Dome Patrol is Back! exile and saintsfan403 like this.
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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Right Under Our Eyes when it not a 46 they are in a base 43 more than 34. pats figured it out and now the rest of the nfl knows what to do against it. pats are an above average team at best but their coaches are top notch lets see what adjustments are made by Roy Boy now that the cat is out of the bag. if we do nothing really different it will be a very long month

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Right Under Our Eyes Originally Posted by hagan714 when it not a 46 they are in a base 43 more than 34. The 46 is the 4-3, just aligned differently I thought they were mainly playing a 3-3-5 with 3 safeties?

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Right Under Our Eyes Mitch you can take that alignment and flip it as we don't overload the weakside, but engage the strongside (i.e. Tight End, usually the Right Tackle)... A big difference is in the way the "gaps" are assigned, which I think let's the players attack instead of diagnose and react... Gotta disagree with my brother Hagan though, Saints came out with adjustmentS and was puttin the woodshed treatment to the Patties until Saints called off the dogs (i.e. Payton stopped running the ball, Rob-Boy rushed 3 in a prevent against a QB like Brady), a mistake our coaches won't make again... We'll be fine, but it's fun and interesting to watch this amalgam defense evolve and adapt though... Danno likes this.
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