Heaven help us Ingrams playing today

Cruize · 11-03-2013, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN

and Thomas's pass catching abilty to ingrams non-exsitance one and thomas still had 4 yrds per carry

Ingram can catch the ball. Brees NEVER even looks his way. Another way to make the Saints offense MORE predictable.

K Major · 11-03-2013, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

Ingram can catch the ball. Brees NEVER even looks his way. Another way to make the Saints offense MORE predictable.

Cruize, I was thinking the same thing. From my view point, I thought the lack of using Ingram more often in the short to intermediate passing attack was another missed opportunity to successfully move the ball down the field.

TheOak · 11-04-2013, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

Ingram can catch the ball. Brees NEVER even looks his way. Another way to make the Saints offense MORE predictable.

Ingmrams Comp%

2013 0
2012 60% 4.4 Yards/Rec
2011 84.6% 4.2 Yards/Rec

His Yards/Rec are dismal.. Those are decent numbers on the ground.

2013 - PTs ave 7.4, Jed Collins 4.9 YPC, Sproles 9.9

Ivory was 7.5 YPC

Cruize · 11-04-2013, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Ingmrams Comp%

2013 0
2012 60% 4.4 Yards/Rec
2011 84.6% 4.2 Yards/Rec

His Yards/Rec are dismal.. Those are decent numbers on the ground.

2013 - PTs ave 7.4, Jed Collins 4.9 YPC, Sproles 9.9

Ivory was 7.5 YPC

The overall point is to be less predictable. I saw Ingram WIDE open many times last year for that 4+ yard play, which I'll take every time, and instead Brees forced the ball downfield. Sometimes resulting in an interception. Take what the defense gives you. Dumping the ball off creates more openings down the field later. Running the ball more makes the offense less predictable. Defenses can't just pin their ears back and attack like the Jets did yesterday. Make the lineman and linebackers play the run and make tackles. Grubbs was a big reason the Ravens Ray Rice was so successful. Evans is a beast. Strief is a mauler. Let them wear the defense down instead of asking them to standup, backup, and dance 40+ times a game.

TheOak · 11-04-2013, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

The overall point is to be less predictable. I saw Ingram WIDE open many times last year for that 4+ yard play, which I'll take every time, and instead Brees forced the ball downfield. Sometimes resulting in an interception. Take what the defense gives you. Dumping the ball off creates more openings down the field later. Running the ball more makes the offense less predictable. Defenses can't just pin their ears back and attack like the Jets did yesterday. Make the lineman and linebackers play the run and make tackles. Grubbs was a big reason the Ravens Ray Rice was so successful. Evans is a beast. Strief is a mauler. Let them wear the defense down instead of asking them to standup, backup, and dance 40+ times a game.

Evans, Strieff, Grubs, DLP, Brown... Have you watched these guys this year? Did you see the reverse in the final minutes of the game against the Jets? Josh Hill ran his first reverse, you cant get any less predictable than that. He was crushed by Quintin Couples 8 yards in the back field. He ran right through the area of Strief, Evans and DLP.

DLP is actually the worst on our line, between the penalties and missed assignments, he is wreaking havoc on out offense.

At the end of the day what do you think the reason Drew throws where he throws is? There has to be one.

11-03-2013, 07:35 PM	#1
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,467	Re: Heaven help us Ingrams playing today Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN and Thomas's pass catching abilty to ingrams non-exsitance one and thomas still had 4 yrds per carry Ingram can catch the ball. Brees NEVER even looks his way. Another way to make the Saints offense MORE predictable. K Major likes this.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,867 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Heaven help us Ingrams playing today Originally Posted by Cruize Ingram can catch the ball. Brees NEVER even looks his way. Another way to make the Saints offense MORE predictable. Cruize, I was thinking the same thing. From my view point, I thought the lack of using Ingram more often in the short to intermediate passing attack was another missed opportunity to successfully move the ball down the field.

11-04-2013, 12:07 PM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,059	Re: Heaven help us Ingrams playing today Originally Posted by Cruize Ingram can catch the ball. Brees NEVER even looks his way. Another way to make the Saints offense MORE predictable. Ingmrams Comp% 2013 0 2012 60% 4.4 Yards/Rec 2011 84.6% 4.2 Yards/Rec His Yards/Rec are dismal.. Those are decent numbers on the ground. 2013 - PTs ave 7.4, Jed Collins 4.9 YPC, Sproles 9.9 Ivory was 7.5 YPC

11-04-2013, 01:17 PM	#4
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,467	Re: Heaven help us Ingrams playing today Originally Posted by TheOak Ingmrams Comp% 2013 0 2012 60% 4.4 Yards/Rec 2011 84.6% 4.2 Yards/Rec His Yards/Rec are dismal.. Those are decent numbers on the ground. 2013 - PTs ave 7.4, Jed Collins 4.9 YPC, Sproles 9.9 Ivory was 7.5 YPC The overall point is to be less predictable. I saw Ingram WIDE open many times last year for that 4+ yard play, which I'll take every time, and instead Brees forced the ball downfield. Sometimes resulting in an interception. Take what the defense gives you. Dumping the ball off creates more openings down the field later. Running the ball more makes the offense less predictable. Defenses can't just pin their ears back and attack like the Jets did yesterday. Make the lineman and linebackers play the run and make tackles. Grubbs was a big reason the Ravens Ray Rice was so successful. Evans is a beast. Strief is a mauler. Let them wear the defense down instead of asking them to standup, backup, and dance 40+ times a game. Danno and K Major like this.
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11-04-2013, 01:35 PM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,059	Re: Heaven help us Ingrams playing today Originally Posted by Cruize The overall point is to be less predictable. I saw Ingram WIDE open many times last year for that 4+ yard play, which I'll take every time, and instead Brees forced the ball downfield. Sometimes resulting in an interception. Take what the defense gives you. Dumping the ball off creates more openings down the field later. Running the ball more makes the offense less predictable. Defenses can't just pin their ears back and attack like the Jets did yesterday. Make the lineman and linebackers play the run and make tackles. Grubbs was a big reason the Ravens Ray Rice was so successful. Evans is a beast. Strief is a mauler. Let them wear the defense down instead of asking them to standup, backup, and dance 40+ times a game. Evans, Strieff, Grubs, DLP, Brown... Have you watched these guys this year? Did you see the reverse in the final minutes of the game against the Jets? Josh Hill ran his first reverse, you cant get any less predictable than that. He was crushed by Quintin Couples 8 yards in the back field. He ran right through the area of Strief, Evans and DLP. DLP is actually the worst on our line, between the penalties and missed assignments, he is wreaking havoc on out offense. At the end of the day what do you think the reason Drew throws where he throws is? There has to be one.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

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