OFFICIAL SAINTS VS JETS GAMEDAY THREAD

Jack Vegas · 11-03-2013, 03:44 PM

The thing that annoys me is we were really running the ball well today and they just wouldn't stick with it. When your top two running backs are averaging 4.3 ypc between them you need to be pounding that rock. PT looked amazing today and if we find more ways to get him the ball I think we could've won.

rezburna · 11-03-2013, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN

no but not running the ball more than 13 times calling a end around with a TE and going to jimmy grahm all day are things he controls

Sean Payton doesn't control ball distribution. Drew Brees does. Jimmy Graham is NEVER the only player running a route on a play. Brees usually always has a check down option open. He just doesn't take them as much as he used to. Ever since we got Graham he began force feeding him the ball. And we got down and abandoned the run game to conserve clock. Which worked. Just didn't execute on the last drive. 3rd and 19 and Brees lofts it up even though its 4 down time? Instead of trying to get 4th and decent, he throws it up for grabs. This was all about bad execution. Even on defense.

Halo · 11-03-2013, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Sean Payton doesn't control ball distribution. Drew Brees does. Jimmy Graham is NEVER the only player running a route on a play. Brees usually always has a check down option open. He just doesn't take them as much as he used to. Ever since we got Graham he began force feeding him the ball. And we got down and abandoned the run game to conserve clock. Which worked. Just didn't execute on the last drive. 3rd and 19 and Brees lofts it up even though its 4 down time? Instead of trying to get 4th and decent, he throws it up for grabs. This was all about bad execution. Even on defense.

I can't disagree with this.

What I will say is, the Saints under Sean Payton have never been known as a ball control, running team. What I do notice is imbalance in pass vs. run. We start throwing every down in the 1st quarter!

I think we CAN run the ball. We ran into this in 2010, where in 2009 we had balance of pass vs. run, like 60/40. In 2010 pass vs. run was like 70/30 or less. We MUST try to gameplan the run and not just run when it's 3 and 2!!! (and sometimes then we just throw the ball)

onebyone · 11-03-2013, 03:41 PM

This game was bad on all fronts. Seems like there has to be some blame for Sean in that too.

K Major · 11-03-2013, 03:49 PM

Running must be paramount next week against Dallas. We are a bit too pass happy for my taste ... on the other hand the Cows are one of the worst in pass defense so far this year. Worst d performance (shedding blocks, tackling etc) this season but hopefully they get it together next week.

Regroup, refocus and get back to fundamentals. Hopefully that is the last 'ugly game' we have this year.

Should be an interesting match up next week.

jeanpierre · 11-03-2013, 03:49 PM

Shared Loss, Including Coach Payton...

No excuse for not running the ball more, none.

Running the ball allows your offensive line to body punch their defensive line and wear them down.

It also allows your quarterback to settle down...

saintsfan403 · 11-03-2013, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Shared Loss, Including Coach Payton...

No excuse for not running the ball more, none.

Running the ball allows your offensive line to body punch their defensive line and wear them down.

It also allows your quarterback to settle down...

True dat. Anyways, 6-2 and we're still on top of the south. We're gonna be fine.

iceshack149 · 11-04-2013, 08:53 AM

I wish that I could be more involved with the game day chat but I can't. That said, I am so glad that I wasn't in the chat room today.

CoreyO · 11-03-2013, 03:56 PM

Even though we lost we may still be at the top for HFA call me crazy but I believe the bucs might upset the seachickens.

jeanpierre · 11-03-2013, 03:57 PM

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11-03-2013, 03:44 PM	#1
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: OFFICIAL SAINTS VS JETS GAMEDAY THREAD The thing that annoys me is we were really running the ball well today and they just wouldn't stick with it. When your top two running backs are averaging 4.3 ypc between them you need to be pounding that rock. PT looked amazing today and if we find more ways to get him the ball I think we could've won.
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11-03-2013, 03:43 PM	#2
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,020	Re: OFFICIAL SAINTS VS JETS GAMEDAY THREAD Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN no but not running the ball more than 13 times calling a end around with a TE and going to jimmy grahm all day are things he controls Sean Payton doesn't control ball distribution. Drew Brees does. Jimmy Graham is NEVER the only player running a route on a play. Brees usually always has a check down option open. He just doesn't take them as much as he used to. Ever since we got Graham he began force feeding him the ball. And we got down and abandoned the run game to conserve clock. Which worked. Just didn't execute on the last drive. 3rd and 19 and Brees lofts it up even though its 4 down time? Instead of trying to get 4th and decent, he throws it up for grabs. This was all about bad execution. Even on defense. Halo and saintsfan403 like this.
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11-03-2013, 03:49 PM	#3
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,866 Blog Entries: 45	Re: OFFICIAL SAINTS VS JETS GAMEDAY THREAD Originally Posted by rezburna Sean Payton doesn't control ball distribution. Drew Brees does. Jimmy Graham is NEVER the only player running a route on a play. Brees usually always has a check down option open. He just doesn't take them as much as he used to. Ever since we got Graham he began force feeding him the ball. And we got down and abandoned the run game to conserve clock. Which worked. Just didn't execute on the last drive. 3rd and 19 and Brees lofts it up even though its 4 down time? Instead of trying to get 4th and decent, he throws it up for grabs. This was all about bad execution. Even on defense. I can't disagree with this. What I will say is, the Saints under Sean Payton have never been known as a ball control, running team. What I do notice is imbalance in pass vs. run. We start throwing every down in the 1st quarter! I think we CAN run the ball. We ran into this in 2010, where in 2009 we had balance of pass vs. run, like 60/40. In 2010 pass vs. run was like 70/30 or less. We MUST try to gameplan the run and not just run when it's 3 and 2!!! (and sometimes then we just throw the ball)
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11-03-2013, 03:41 PM	#4
onebyone 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 431	Re: OFFICIAL SAINTS VS JETS GAMEDAY THREAD This game was bad on all fronts. Seems like there has to be some blame for Sean in that too.
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11-03-2013, 03:49 PM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,795 Blog Entries: 3	Re: OFFICIAL SAINTS VS JETS GAMEDAY THREAD Running must be paramount next week against Dallas. We are a bit too pass happy for my taste ... on the other hand the Cows are one of the worst in pass defense so far this year. Worst d performance (shedding blocks, tackling etc) this season but hopefully they get it together next week. Regroup, refocus and get back to fundamentals. Hopefully that is the last 'ugly game' we have this year. Should be an interesting match up next week.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: OFFICIAL SAINTS VS JETS GAMEDAY THREAD Shared Loss, Including Coach Payton... No excuse for not running the ball more, none. Running the ball allows your offensive line to body punch their defensive line and wear them down. It also allows your quarterback to settle down...

11-03-2013, 03:55 PM	#7
saintsfan403 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: WHO DAT NATION Posts: 2,261	Re: OFFICIAL SAINTS VS JETS GAMEDAY THREAD Originally Posted by jeanpierre Shared Loss, Including Coach Payton... No excuse for not running the ball more, none. Running the ball allows your offensive line to body punch their defensive line and wear them down. It also allows your quarterback to settle down... True dat. Anyways, 6-2 and we're still on top of the south. We're gonna be fine. Halo likes this.

11-04-2013, 08:53 AM	#8
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,367 Blog Entries: 1	Re: OFFICIAL SAINTS VS JETS GAMEDAY THREAD I wish that I could be more involved with the game day chat but I can't. That said, I am so glad that I wasn't in the chat room today.

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CoreyO 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 550	Re: OFFICIAL SAINTS VS JETS GAMEDAY THREAD Even though we lost we may still be at the top for HFA call me crazy but I believe the bucs might upset the seachickens.
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