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NOS2SB 11-03-2013 03:18 PM
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We lost cuz of the O line. WTF?

saintsfan403 11-03-2013 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 543954)
say what you want, but we missed Jenkins in the secondary today...
Yup, I'm gonna have to take a page from Danno's book and say that having Harper in the box would have been a big boost today too.

|Mitch| 11-03-2013 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by W. Kovacs (Post 543953)
Hate to say it, but that's the season. You can't lose to crappy teams, even on the road, and expect to go anywhere. Now we have the most brutal part of our schedule coming up. Even if we split we most likely lose home field in the playoffs. And we've seen what happens to us on the road.

What a f*cking waste.

Oh well, maybe we'll actually draft some OL players this year and have a chance next year.

Edit: Bellichick really showed how to beat us. Anyone with any sort of DL is going to own us for the rest of the season...(i.e. Seattle and SF).
Holy **** Man, did you come straight from the Falcons boards? The Jets beat the Pats to, is their season over? :rolleyes:

K Major 11-03-2013 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN (Post 543956)
we better figure out some kind of balance between run and pass
Spot on. Running 13 times in a game isn't gonna get it done. We need a better game plan next week.

saintsfan403 11-03-2013 03:20 PM
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He wins award for worst comment of the thread.

LivnaLieTimay 11-03-2013 03:20 PM
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Dominated in all phases of the game. -2 in the turnover battle and more penalties against a team that has been awful with turnover and penalties is inexcusable. Defense couldn't stop the run even though the Jets didn't challenge them vertically the entire game. Offense was sloppy with drops and no protection. I hope Payton rips into this team because we have our toughest part of our schedule coming up and if we play like this we are going to have a long month.

jeanpierre 11-03-2013 03:21 PM
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That was an outstanding defensive line we faced today; wanted Wilkerson in the 2011 NFL Draft, we took Cam Jordan instead; had a second opportunity to get him, we took Ingram, d'oh...

Definite team loss...

Missed Field Goals, Terrible Offensive Line Play, Dropped Passes, Weak Arm Strength, Poor Route Running, Incomplete Tackling....

W. Kovacs 11-03-2013 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 543961)
Holy **** Man, did you come straight from the Falcons boards? The Jets beat the Pats to, is their season over? :rolleyes:
No, I'm just a realist. Watched way too much football in my life to not know how these things go.

For the record, I don't think that Pats are going to do anything this year either. They'll make the playoffs because they're division is bollocks, then go one or two and out...just like us.

jeanpierre 11-03-2013 03:23 PM
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Man, this going to kill our standings in the ESPN and CBS power rankings...;)

|Mitch| 11-03-2013 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by W. Kovacs (Post 543972)
They'll make the playoffs because they're division is bollocks, then go one or two and out...just like us.
Well then go jump on the Panthers or Cowgirls bandwagons then because it sure as hell seems you don't like being here with the Saints...

Barry from MS 11-03-2013 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by saintsfan403 (Post 543957)
He's still clutch, can't take that away from him. Even if he gets 3 catches a game those can extend a drive. We had every chance to put this one away, just poor execution
The Toon drop behind the secondary down the sideline was an easy first down or maybe a TD, but instead we punt. Then Toon's "doink!" that he deflected up was picked by Cromartie. 2 plays that Colston typically makes. It was Nick "Car" Toon today, as he just looked pretty dang silly; he grabs those 2 passes we are set. Need Colston back badly, and we really missed Sproles when it came to getting first downs. Plus missed M. Jenkins today.

DISPLACEDFAN 11-03-2013 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay (Post 543967)
Dominated in all phases of the game. -2 in the turnover battle and more penalties against a team that has been awful with turnover and penalties is inexcusable. Defense couldn't stop the run even though the Jets didn't challenge them vertically the entire game. Offense was sloppy with drops and no protection. I hope Payton rips into this team because we have our toughest part of our schedule coming up and if we play like this we are going to have a long month.
Add payton to that ripping cause his play call at times is just bad and the fact he has no hint of running the ball to keep defenses honest is just dumb

spkb25 11-03-2013 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by saintsfan403 (Post 543945)
Oh well, get healthy and look ahead. Sean needs to get less pretty on his play calls sometimes and play some hard-nosed football every now and then
Nahhh, sean had nothing to do with this loss at all, nothingggggggg at all

All and I mean all on the players

|Mitch| 11-03-2013 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Barry from MS (Post 543976)
The Toon drop behind the secondary down the sideline was an easy first down or maybe a TD, but instead we punt. Then Toon's "doink!" that he deflected up was picked by Cromartie. 2 plays that Colston typically makes. It was Nick "Car" Toon today, as he just looked pretty dang silly; he grabs those 2 passes we are set. Need Colston back badly, and we really missed Sproles when it came to getting first downs. Plus missed M. Jenkins today.
Looked like he didn't even need to dive on that first dropped pass. Could have just ran through the catch and went for the TD

spkb25 11-03-2013 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN (Post 543982)
Add payton to that ripping cause his play call at times is just bad and the fact he has no hint of running the ball to keep defenses honest is just dumb
Nahhh, allllllll on the players

saintsfan403 11-03-2013 03:26 PM
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What a typical response to saying something outright retarded, "I've watched too much football in my life" cool story, bro

DISPLACEDFAN 11-03-2013 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 543985)
Nahhh, allllllll on the players
players Don't gameplan and this game plan was bad

jeanpierre 11-03-2013 03:27 PM
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Stills is definitely a keeper, Colston under contract, but can't seem to get healthy; Moore will be re-signed; Meachem, former first rounder, looks fine as a no. 5, but we still need to find another tall wide receiver with good hands...

W. Kovacs 11-03-2013 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 543975)
Well then go jump on the Panthers or Cowgirls bandwagons then because it sure as hell seems you don't like being here with the Saints...
Hurtful, dude.

I love the Saints, that's why I'm so freaking frustrated. I was calling for OL support since last season when Drew was getting obliterated on a regular basis. They did nothing to bolster it and now it's coming back to kill us.

We've probably got one more good year with Drew and it drives me nuts to think that they're not going to get another championship before we start rebuilding.

spkb25 11-03-2013 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN (Post 543956)
we better figure out some kind of balance between run and pass
Or just catch the GD ball

jeanpierre 11-03-2013 03:29 PM
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All we're missing is some over consumption of alcohol and close proximity in a Superdome parking garage and the NOPD would have a report to file right now...

|Mitch| 11-03-2013 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by W. Kovacs (Post 543991)
Hurtful, dude.

I love the Saints, that's why I'm so freaking frustrated. I was calling for OL support since last season when Drew was getting obliterated on a regular basis. They did nothing to bolster it and now it's coming back to kill us.

We've probably got one more good year with Drew and it drives me nuts to think that they're not going to get another championship before we start rebuilding.
Can you answer honestly? Did you expect the Saints to be 6-2 before the season started?

jeanpierre 11-03-2013 03:30 PM
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Wait, wait, Geno Smith is going to speak...

Can I get an interpreter?!?

spkb25 11-03-2013 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN (Post 543989)
players Don't gameplan and this game plan was bad
They execute it, and drops will call you. Missed opportunities alll day

Again, not on Sean at all. Allllll on the players

Barry from MS 11-03-2013 03:30 PM
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Wait, we've already got folks saying the season is tanked? Dang. It's pretty bad that we're sitting 6-2.

However, if we continue to run TE reverses on 4th and short it may just be a long season.

Chin up, we simply got beat on both sides of the ball by an up-and-down team on the road. I've also watched a lot of football in my life, and if were a Haslett-AB "led" team, I'd consider this year surely tanked.

lee909 11-03-2013 03:31 PM
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I have too say if Drew wants another ring he is going to have to drop some of that big salary or he is going to spend more and more time looking at the sky.
We are ging to be close to the cap again and will loose more players if he doesnt.Cash or a shot at a ring.

Id be tempted to be agressive and just go all out in the draft for a Tackle to anchor one end.

Next year Brees,Grubbs and Evans eat up $38.5ml of the cap between them

CoreyO 11-03-2013 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by W. Kovacs (Post 543953)
Hate to say it, but that's the season. You can't lose to crappy teams, even on the road, and expect to go anywhere. Now we have the most brutal part of our schedule coming up. Even if we split we most likely lose home field in the playoffs. And we've seen what happens to us on the road.

What a f*cking waste.

Oh well, maybe we'll actually draft some OL players this year and have a chance next year.

Edit: Bellichick really showed how to beat us. Anyone with any sort of DL is going to own us for the rest of the season...(i.e. Seattle and SF).
Lol i guess if you lose two games that means its impossible to make a playoff run

spkb25 11-03-2013 03:31 PM
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I'll guarantee this, we'll play better next week

DISPLACEDFAN 11-03-2013 03:33 PM
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You can give Payton a pass if you want but for me he's just as much to blame as his players.I agree pass catchers were awful out there but some calls were just as bad

spkb25 11-03-2013 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN (Post 544013)
You can give Payton a pass if you want but for me he's just as much to blame as his players.I agree pass catchers were awful out there but some calls were just as bad
You can't drop balls, SP has nothing to do with this loss, nothing at allllllll

All, and I mean all on the players

jeanpierre 11-03-2013 03:35 PM
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Do you hear the footsteps?!?

Carolina beat Atlanta...

They are coming...

W. Kovacs 11-03-2013 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 543997)
Can you answer honestly? Did you expect the Saints to be 6-2 before the season started?
No, I thought we'd be 5-3 at the half-way point. I thought we'd lose the Falcons game, just because it was the first game of the season and I didn't think the d would be clicking yet.

Full disclosure, I also thought we'd lose to the Bucs and win at the Jets.

Beat me up however you want.

|Mitch| 11-03-2013 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN (Post 544013)
You can give Payton a pass if you want but for me he's just as much to blame as his players.I agree pass catchers were awful out there but some calls were just as bad
lack of catching, poor execution(penalties), missed tackles aren't Paytons fault...

9thWardDesire 11-03-2013 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 544026)
lack of catching, poor execution(penalties), missed tackles aren't Paytons fault...
THAAAAAAAAAANK U!!!!

|Mitch| 11-03-2013 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by W. Kovacs (Post 544021)
No, I thought we'd be 5-3 at the half-way point. I thought we'd lose the Falcons game, just because it was the first game of the season and I didn't think the d would be clicking yet.

Full disclosure, I also thought we'd lose to the Bucs and win at the Jets.

Beat me up however you want.
No, just saying no one expected we'd be 6-2... Even you just said 5-3, relax we'll be fine no need to worry and ***** about it when there is nothing you as a fan can do to change it

DISPLACEDFAN 11-03-2013 03:38 PM
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no but not running the ball more than 13 times calling a end around with a TE and going to jimmy grahm all day are things he controls

onebyone 11-03-2013 03:41 PM
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This game was bad on all fronts. Seems like there has to be some blame for Sean in that too.

|Mitch| 11-03-2013 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DISPLACEDFAN (Post 544033)
no but not running the ball more than 13 times calling a end around with a TE and going to jimmy grahm all day are things he controls
Last time I checked Graham had 9 catches for 119 yards and 2 TD's so I can see why he was trusted.

W. Kovacs 11-03-2013 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by CoreyO (Post 544005)
Lol i guess if you lose two games that means its impossible to make a playoff run
How've we done in the playoffs on the road so far?

What do you need to win on the road in the playoffs, especially in the cold?

Our chance was to win all games at home, then split with SF and SEA, then maybe lose to Carolina or Tampa on the road and beat all the inferior teams on our schedule. The last two is where we've cost ourselves. Losing to the Pats and the Jets is inexcusable and will cost us.

I really, really hope I'm wrong. A lot. Then you can all kick the sh*t out of me and tell me how stupid I am and I wouldn't care because the Saints are winning. Right now, though, I don't see it and it's p*ssing me off/bumming me out.

jeanpierre 11-03-2013 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 544003)
I have too say if Drew wants another ring he is going to have to drop some of that big salary or he is going to spend more and more time looking at the sky.

Next year Brees, Grubbs and Evans eat up $38.5ml of the cap between them
Grubbs won't be on this team if he keeps getting tossed like a kid...

Evans will still be here, but he does need to rededicate himself...

Yes, Drew is on the decline, that is a reality of age and his past injury...

But Brees in decline is still better than anything we have on the roster or that is available in free agency...

But, no, Brees is not worth 20mil/year - only Payton Manning has played that way this year...

And an honest conversation needs to be had with Drew about a reduction of his salary cap hit and the future of acquiring players to continue success for the franchise...


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