Cowboys

Danno · 11-03-2013, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Maybe it's not over-reacting though. We have shown some very real flaws and I hardly think that stating such observations constitutes over-reacting or being a "bandwagon fan."

Sorry, I was mainly referring to that ridiculous "we are not a superbowl team" crap on another thread and some over reactionary "we suck" posts I'm reading.

AlaskaSaints · 11-03-2013, 07:40 PM

... but we're not. Our entire team was outrun today by Chris Ivory.

If we don't develop a run game we won't be going any more than one-deep into the playoffs.

THAT's a FACK JACK.

There's some very questionable coaching going on right now with the offense and lack of real production is what's disturbing.

Alaska

BIGEASY504 · 11-03-2013, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

I think we've seen this before, we're just throwing the ball too much. We've seen Sean do this before. I believe we can actually RUN the ball, because we do it's effecting - we just STOP running or don't even start running from the 1st quarter.

If we game plan some nice running plays to mix it up, and do some REAL play action passes (not just that little lip service play action we've been doing), I think we'll see a totally different team and outcome.

Can Sean effectively call consecutive run plays, we run for 5 than pass - just no rhythm. Its hard in Sean's offense for a running back to get hot cause he abandon it with a quickness. PT and Sproles are different types of backs and the type of back we really need ran ruff-shot on us today. With no faith in Ingram we will not advance as far as we'd like. Guess it's too much invested in Ingram and we paid the price, Ivory torched us. I like the Robinson kid but he need the reps. Will/Can Sean do it?

The Dude · 11-03-2013, 08:32 PM

You shouldn't have a good feeling going into the second half. Look at the first half. The teams we beat are all ****ty teams for the most part and most of those we barely eeked out at the last minute. None of our wins have looked impressive with the exception of the Cards game. That was our cake walk. The easy part of our season is over and now comes the real NFL contenders. Not to mention the fact that Carolina is looking damn good right now. If our O line keeps getting handled like it has been in the first half there is not going to be many of them left to play down the stretch. A defense like Carolinas is going to absolutely destroy our line. We have had a very smoke and mirrors type season this year.

darstep · 11-03-2013, 11:45 PM

I agree Dude. A couple of our wins could have went either way.
We just expect to win some of these games by 2 touchdowns or more
and it's just not happening. We've seen some improvement in or defense
but it looks like our offense has started struggling. I'm still waiting to see
some "consistent" play on both sides of the ball from one week to another.
We've seen flashes of good-solid play but no consistency.
Perhaps my expectations were too high with the return of Payton at the helm.
They definitely weren't ready to play, which is what I have come to expect with him.
Slow still can't be coached faster.
We just have to find a way to cover our flaws and bucket our leaks.

hagan714 · 11-04-2013, 01:04 AM

you can not play call 3 passes to 1 run without a defense catching on and T - OFF on ya. simple

WHODATINCA · 11-04-2013, 01:26 AM

Originally Posted by Halo

I think we've seen this before, we're just throwing the ball too much. We've seen Sean do this before. I believe we can actually RUN the ball, because we do it's effecting - we just STOP running or don't even start running from the 1st quarter.

If we gameplan some nice running plays to mix it up, and do some REAL play action passes (not just that little lip service playaction we've been doing), I think we'll see a totally different team and outcome.

Totally agree. The way Drew "fakes" a hand-off is lame -- not even mentioning the pass/pass/pass/pass/pass/maybe run (second thought ) pass/ ... etc. till you just want to pull your hair out.

WHODATINCA · 11-04-2013, 01:35 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Yeah i can lol That's what I'm most concerned about though, that if the offense from today keeps turning up we won't even get in.

If our offense can only play well at home, we are going to have to have serious football gods on our side to get homefield advantage throughout the playoffs

Even if we did get to the SB, its outside, thats a automatic loss for us lol

OK, agreed with you up to here "Even if we did get to the SB, its outside, thats a automatic loss for us".

We beat the Bucs outside in --- wait for it --- <GASP> THE RAIN!! LOL

OK, we almost lost, but, hey...

dizzle88 · 11-04-2013, 03:33 AM

The most annoying thing for me was that we were having success running the ball when we did

PT was gaining 3-4 every run, Ingram went 3 yard, 2 yards, then had a 15 yarder

As soon as we go down a score, it just goes into panic mode

It didn't help that just before the half we were going down to score and Nick Toon thought he played for his dads team and gave cromartie the ball

jeanpierre · 11-04-2013, 07:02 AM

I bet the Cowboys are who were on the coaches mind; so we'd better torch the Jerry Jones Rodeo Clown show after that debacle in New York...

11-03-2013, 06:43 PM	#21
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,647	Re: Cowboys Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Maybe it's not over-reacting though. We have shown some very real flaws and I hardly think that stating such observations constitutes over-reacting or being a "bandwagon fan." Sorry, I was mainly referring to that ridiculous "we are not a superbowl team" crap on another thread and some over reactionary "we suck" posts I'm reading.

11-03-2013, 07:40 PM	#22
AlaskaSaints 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anchorage, AK Posts: 2,484 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Cowboys ... but we're not. Our entire team was outrun today by Chris Ivory. If we don't develop a run game we won't be going any more than one-deep into the playoffs. THAT's a FACK JACK. There's some very questionable coaching going on right now with the offense and lack of real production is what's disturbing. Alaska Halo likes this.

11-03-2013, 08:18 PM	#23
BIGEASY504 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 487	Re: Cowboys Originally Posted by Halo I think we've seen this before, we're just throwing the ball too much. We've seen Sean do this before. I believe we can actually RUN the ball, because we do it's effecting - we just STOP running or don't even start running from the 1st quarter. If we game plan some nice running plays to mix it up, and do some REAL play action passes (not just that little lip service play action we've been doing), I think we'll see a totally different team and outcome. Can Sean effectively call consecutive run plays, we run for 5 than pass - just no rhythm. Its hard in Sean's offense for a running back to get hot cause he abandon it with a quickness. PT and Sproles are different types of backs and the type of back we really need ran ruff-shot on us today. With no faith in Ingram we will not advance as far as we'd like. Guess it's too much invested in Ingram and we paid the price, Ivory torched us. I like the Robinson kid but he need the reps. Will/Can Sean do it? Halo likes this.
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11-03-2013, 08:32 PM	#24
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,006	Re: Cowboys You shouldn't have a good feeling going into the second half. Look at the first half. The teams we beat are all ****ty teams for the most part and most of those we barely eeked out at the last minute. None of our wins have looked impressive with the exception of the Cards game. That was our cake walk. The easy part of our season is over and now comes the real NFL contenders. Not to mention the fact that Carolina is looking damn good right now. If our O line keeps getting handled like it has been in the first half there is not going to be many of them left to play down the stretch. A defense like Carolinas is going to absolutely destroy our line. We have had a very smoke and mirrors type season this year.
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11-03-2013, 11:45 PM	#25
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: Cowboys I agree Dude. A couple of our wins could have went either way. We just expect to win some of these games by 2 touchdowns or more and it's just not happening. We've seen some improvement in or defense but it looks like our offense has started struggling. I'm still waiting to see some "consistent" play on both sides of the ball from one week to another. We've seen flashes of good-solid play but no consistency. Perhaps my expectations were too high with the return of Payton at the helm. They definitely weren't ready to play, which is what I have come to expect with him. Slow still can't be coached faster. We just have to find a way to cover our flaws and bucket our leaks. Halo, hagan714 and AlaskaSaints like this.
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11-04-2013, 01:04 AM	#26
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11-04-2013, 01:26 AM	#27
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: Cowboys Originally Posted by Halo I think we've seen this before, we're just throwing the ball too much. We've seen Sean do this before. I believe we can actually RUN the ball, because we do it's effecting - we just STOP running or don't even start running from the 1st quarter. If we gameplan some nice running plays to mix it up, and do some REAL play action passes (not just that little lip service playaction we've been doing), I think we'll see a totally different team and outcome. Totally agree. The way Drew "fakes" a hand-off is lame -- not even mentioning the pass/pass/pass/pass/pass/maybe run (second thought ) pass/ ... etc. till you just want to pull your hair out.

11-04-2013, 01:35 AM	#28
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: Cowboys Originally Posted by dizzle88 Yeah i can lol That's what I'm most concerned about though, that if the offense from today keeps turning up we won't even get in. If our offense can only play well at home, we are going to have to have serious football gods on our side to get homefield advantage throughout the playoffs Even if we did get to the SB, its outside, thats a automatic loss for us lol OK, agreed with you up to here "Even if we did get to the SB, its outside, thats a automatic loss for us". We beat the Bucs outside in --- wait for it --- <GASP> THE RAIN!! LOL OK, we almost lost, but, hey... dizzle88 likes this.

11-04-2013, 03:33 AM	#29
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 10,838	Re: Cowboys The most annoying thing for me was that we were having success running the ball when we did PT was gaining 3-4 every run, Ingram went 3 yard, 2 yards, then had a 15 yarder As soon as we go down a score, it just goes into panic mode It didn't help that just before the half we were going down to score and Nick Toon thought he played for his dads team and gave cromartie the ball

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Cowboys I bet the Cowboys are who were on the coaches mind; so we'd better torch the Jerry Jones Rodeo Clown show after that debacle in New York... W. Kovacs likes this.

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