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You don't rebuild an offensive line in one offseason and that is what we need. A major overhaul. This is going to be hard because while our D is improved, it is still not what you would call a good D, average at best but opportunistic. We are gonna need some help there as well. We simply dont have the money and time. By the time we get our Oline straightened out Drew will be done. Hell working behind this years line has probably shaved a year off his career already.
He needs to come off of some of that money and buy himself some protection or he wont be around long enough to collect all that contract money.
Our best shot for a second SB was 11 and we blew it. Window still has a crack, but not much.

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Bandwagon fan! Right Danno??

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Some of you are.;) Some of you simply over-react to every loss like a spoiled brat 13 year old girl.

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I don't think we're completely dead, but we do need to rebuild the O-Line.

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I agree. Next season we should look to shore up the Oline and I hope we do it with cheap rookies lol. Every time we sign a lineman from another team they always seem to be overvalued for what you get.


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We just need to play better. We played badly today, it happens to every team now and then.

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I think Oline hasn't been great all season though. Today was really bad but we have been giving up a lot of sacks this season.


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I agree, they've regressed since last year. But we have seen this same group play well so I'm not convinced we can't fix it, especially if Evans gets healthy. He's the key.

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I've been saying this about the O-Line since last year. It's why we can't run and forces Drew into many of his interceptions because he has to hurry so many of his throws.

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I think this offensive line would look entirely different if we tried to run the ball, not just run run pass, but mix it up. We don't even give it a chance. It's not that we can't run the ball because that's impossible to know since we start out the 1st quarter just throwing the ball like we're an Arena football team.

We're a one trick pony - throw throw throw and get to Brees and cover the receivers/tight end and you're good to go.

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If the window is indeed closing, to just a crack, then we need to fire Payton and move on. Payton is ultimately responsible for the decline in the O-line. So is Loomis. Period. End of story. We have squandered years of Drew, and need to look to the future in a different direction. Loomis should not have given Brees all that money knowing it would hobble us. Payton should not have let the o-line get as weak as it has. Payton is the one who let it get this bad. There's no point in even trying to salvage these last few years of Drew, with the shabby line, we need to cut bait and move on. If it's going to take us years to fix and get the line together, might as well blow the whole thing up. Drew is not going to be with us forever.

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While I believe the o-line is average at best, when any defense, especially one as athletic as the Jets, can pin their ears back and attack what has to be the most predictable/unbalanced offense in the NFL in the Saints, they are actually doing a great job in protecting Brees.

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We haven't been right since we "Paid The Man".

And yes, I'll be wearing my Brees Jersey next week at the game.

Alaska

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Not exactly fair. Right after we "Paid the Man," we lost our head coach for an entire season.

This season reminds me a lot of 2011 so far. The plan the 9ers used against us in the playoffs that year still works just fine.

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You just made the most sense of any post I've read all day. Kudos, sir.

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I've said it 100 times in one form or another. We played a really really crappy game today. Not as bad as the Cleveland game 3 years ago, but pretty bad.

We gave it to the Jets with numerous unforced errors. I just don't see any way possible our offense plays that badly for the rest of the season.

I see 5-3 over the next 8 games at worst. Yeah, if we play as bad as we did today we won't win 3 games, but that's not gonna happen, especially with 4 home games left.

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Are the Saints still zone blocking on the OLine because if they are it is not working. They should go back to gap blocking. Last season we had the same center and guards and they did fine. I think gap blocking would benefit Charles Brown also.

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DAMN EXCELLENT POINT. We went zone thinking it would help our run game. We might need to revisit that decision.

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I usually only just read the post, but I had to set a profile and log into this forum to say this. Yes it is problems on the oline but to say this can't be fix in one season is a fan OVERREACTING like usual. How about Bree/Paytons first year here? Wasn't that line an overhaul? We made moves that were in question across the board and it worked. It wasn't a project it was what they saw and they moved on it. This line showed some regression from last year but still was pretty good running and passing back than. One thing for sure not this bad. What is the things that we don't have? Bushrod and our Oline coach and the bottom has fallen out. Now i'm not saying it is either or for the drastic drop, but I use them as an example to show that changes can be made in one off season that can have a ripple effect. We made changes that impacted the continuity overnight and it worked FEW times. The defense is going to have to help the offense cause when we don't get up and going fast we struggle at times.

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Amen. Zone blocking would work better for Armstead and a more athletic RT... But it doesn't suit Brown and Strief. With that being said, Brown and DLP are free agents after this year so I wouldn't be surprised if we let them both go and move forward with Armstead and a center that we pick in the first round of the draft.

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We have not played great all year long. We have played well enough to beat the teams we have beaten, who are all bad teams btw. We were lucky to win those and just as easily could have lost. None of our wins have been impressive with the exception of the Cardinals game.

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Beware... You're gonna be called a fair weather fan for actually pointing out obvious flaws.

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But the Saints need to fix the OLine now. This can't wait until next season. If this continues Drew is going to get seriously injured and there goes the season.

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Not a whole lot we can do really. Changing schemes is about it. There is nobody out there to pick up. Even if there is someone I doubt they would be an upgrade. It also takes time to plug a new linemen in.

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What I mean is kill the zone blocking. It isn't working. Go back to the gap blocking and I think that will help. If Charles Brown and DLP don't inmprove they have Armstead and there has to be someone else on the roster that can play center. This needs to be fixed now or Drew is gonna get killed out there.

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I don't think it's gonna be changed. I think the coaches will continue to run that blocking scheme with our current starters unfortunately. I guess all we can do is look forward to seeing what Terron Armstead and a new center can do next season. Hell, for all I know we may resign Brown and DLP but god I hope not.

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Losing Kromer really hurt.

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Brilliant Ill pass that to SP, sure it will make a huge difference :dunce:

On a realistic note our defence still falls apart on away games on turf, and thats a problem we might not be able to fix before the seahawks in the playoffs.

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Nm

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No need to visit falconslife when the overreactions and flipouts are epic here tonight. (cue posts from fans who will call this comment "censorship" of any criticism of the team).

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I can't even handle how bad of an overreaction this is

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is this all one massive troll?

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OK, gents, let's not imitate Dez AND ALSO not talk about glaring flaws in this team. I believe it is still OK here to discuss the areas in which we think the team could improve.

On the other hand, we are 6-2 ... so it is reasonable to not go running around with our hair on fire, either.

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Holy cow... Why didn't they think of that. Payton should have walked in the locker room at half time and said "we just need to play better". Why didn't the players think of that.

We just need to play better; such an insightful breakdown.

almost as good as "if we score more than the other team we'll win"

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No on this board your not allowed to talk about ways to improve. You'll be thought of as irrational and a band-wagon fan.

How dare you say this team needs some work, you must be a falcon fan.

Edit: The only thing I can't stand aside from people *****ing in forums are the people that ***** about *****ing.

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I can think of lots of things to be happy about:
1. I'm not from Atlanta
2. I'm not from Tampa
3. I don't have a concussion

I can think of a few things I'd like better than what I have now:
1. Saints figure out how to punch another team in the mouth running the ball
2. Saints figure out how to protect Drew Brees better
3. Saints D figure out how to stop the run

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I could'nt help but to post here once more. As you can tell it's been a LONG time and it's for the same %$&&^ that goes on here when ever someone bring up a valid point. All these trolls pop up and just attack! All these guys are "REAL" Saints Fans and everyone else is @!#@@#

Sure keep telling yourselves that. I was here for a LONG time before i even posted for the first time and I have been through all of the ups and downs...same as YOU!

I have a right to express my opinions, popular or not and not be questioned for it?

As do you, but this is out of line and constant, go ahead, go back and read any random posts that remotely doesn't blow Roses up this teams !@@#$ when they play like !#@$%

We're 6-2, with a tough schedule upcoming and WE should be asking the questions!

We can't stop the RUN, EVER, and we play SF,CAR twice and Seattle ..in Seattle!

These are teams that can RUN and will Run, oh and the pass rush is pretty good too.

We'll have an idea of what kind of team we really are after that, and then we can say how " OVERBOARD" All these legit questions and observations are...ok...Good luck to US, and go SAINTS...but enough of this forum stuff...seriously man!

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What gets old is the constant negativity you puke up daily. Every team has flaws and were no different. It just gets annoying as hell to hear you obsess about them constantly. When you get called out for it you act like your getting chastised for objective analysis when in reality you're obsessed with criticism.
It's weak and bothersome.

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Danno, I read your posts and respect your football knowledge in general and especially about this team. I have learned alot from your observations. And, I'm wondering if you could take the perspective ( especially after a loss ) that these people who are "obsessing" are actually just expressing a sincere concern about a team they love. And are just trying to figure out how to solve the problems ( because even if no one on the team reads this forum ) it still feels better than doing nothing.

That's the way I read their perspective. I also enjoy the analysis. Even if we were winning every game -- there would still be problem areas. I think this forum would be much less interesting if we didn't discuss them.