Saints O/D Line

blackangold · 11-04-2013, 06:11 PM

Zone blocking scheme needs to go

TheOak · 11-04-2013, 06:27 PM

I did see the rankings, but they can get skewed based on the % participation you chose to set
It on.

And yes on the LBs. Someone made a comment in the Dallas thread about Ware and what I remembered was the reverse where our TE was stuffed 8 yards back. We don't have to worry DEs as much as LBs shooting inside gaps. That would be a missed pick up I presume?

I'll cover RBs and WRs tomorrow in different threads.

halloween 65 · 11-04-2013, 06:43 PM

Look on the bright side, Brees is actually having to earn all his money. Let's just hope one of the O-line don't go down, what then? They are not playing well at all.

Danno · 11-04-2013, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Look on the bright side, Brees is actually having to earn all his money. Let's just hope one of the O-line don't go down, what then? They are not playing well at all.

Looking on the bright side as well, replacing a woefully under-performing O-lineman with a hungry reserve probably isn't that much of a drop-off is it?

halloween 65 · 11-04-2013, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Looking on the bright side as well, replacing a woefully under-performing O-lineman with a hungry reserve probably isn't that much of a drop-off is it?

The way the starters are playing it could be an upgrade. The Jets D-line looked like pro-bowlers against us, I hate to think what San-Fran, Bengals or K.C. would look like or do? It could get real ugly.

jeanpierre · 11-04-2013, 07:00 PM

Other than Evans, you can have the whole lot...

Grubbs, the supposed mauler, is getting thown like a toy (i.e. Miami, NYJ)...

DLP, a quick fix we've uncomfortably settled...

Strief, looks like a visiting Sumo whose spent five years to many on the D circuit...

And, don't get me started on Old Man Charles Brown...

We're getting our @$$es whooped; whooped...

We've got to make a REAL committment to the run, even if it's 3 and out for the first three series; let our linemen take the hurt out on these defensive linemen...

WHODATINCA · 11-04-2013, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Seeing how we preform on the field is one thing, seeing how our players rank against the rest of the league is another.

Total Pressure Allowed (Sacks, Hits, Hurries) Ranked#5

Pass Blocking Efficiency
Center (DLP) #5,
Guards (Evans #8/Grubs #20),
Tackles (Strief #1 Brown #42),
*Guards and Tackles are ranked out of 57 players.

Run Blocking Efficiency
DLP (-3.6)
Evans (-3.4)
Grubs (7.6)
Strief (15)
Brown (-4.7)

Where are you getting these numbers? Way cool.

WHODATINCA · 11-04-2013, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Seeing how we preform on the field is one thing, seeing how our players rank against the rest of the league is another.

Total Pressure Allowed (Sacks, Hits, Hurries) Ranked#5

Pass Blocking Efficiency
Center (DLP) #5,
Guards (Evans #8/Grubs #20),
Tackles (Strief #1 Brown #42),
*Guards and Tackles are ranked out of 57 players.

Run Blocking Efficiency
DLP (-3.6)
Evans (-3.4)
Grubs (7.6)
Strief (15)
Brown (-4.7)

Where are you getting these numbers? Way cool. What is PFT?

saintsfan403 · 11-04-2013, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by WHODATINCA

Where are you getting these numbers? Way cool. What is PFT?

Pro-football Talk

blackangold · 11-04-2013, 07:38 PM

Our Guards this year are not doing well. Evans is hurt and Grubbs never really played well for us. Brees is best when able to step up in the pocket which he hasnt been able to do this year. Wouldn't mind Harris replacing Grubbs, he is a big boy and did well when playing for Strief.

11-04-2013, 06:43 PM	#3
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints O/D Line Look on the bright side, Brees is actually having to earn all his money. Let's just hope one of the O-line don't go down, what then? They are not playing well at all.

11-04-2013, 07:00 PM	#6
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints O/D Line Other than Evans, you can have the whole lot... Grubbs, the supposed mauler, is getting thown like a toy (i.e. Miami, NYJ)... DLP, a quick fix we've uncomfortably settled... Strief, looks like a visiting Sumo whose spent five years to many on the D circuit... And, don't get me started on Old Man Charles Brown... We're getting our @$$es whooped; whooped... We've got to make a REAL committment to the run, even if it's 3 and out for the first three series; let our linemen take the hurt out on these defensive linemen... WhoDatFan26 likes this.

11-04-2013, 07:28 PM	#7
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: Saints O/D Line Originally Posted by TheOak Seeing how we preform on the field is one thing, seeing how our players rank against the rest of the league is another. Total Pressure Allowed (Sacks, Hits, Hurries) Ranked#5 Pass Blocking Efficiency Center (DLP) #5, Guards (Evans #8/Grubs #20), Tackles (Strief #1 Brown #42), *Guards and Tackles are ranked out of 57 players. Run Blocking Efficiency DLP (-3.6) Evans (-3.4) Grubs (7.6) Strief (15) Brown (-4.7) Where are you getting these numbers? Way cool.

11-04-2013, 08:47 PM	#9
saintsfan403 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: WHO DAT NATION Posts: 2,261	Re: Saints O/D Line Originally Posted by WHODATINCA Where are you getting these numbers? Way cool. What is PFT? Pro-football Talk

11-04-2013, 07:38 PM	#10
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints O/D Line Our Guards this year are not doing well. Evans is hurt and Grubbs never really played well for us. Brees is best when able to step up in the pocket which he hasnt been able to do this year. Wouldn't mind Harris replacing Grubbs, he is a big boy and did well when playing for Strief.

11-04-2013, 06:11 PM	#1
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints O/D Line Zone blocking scheme needs to go

11-04-2013, 06:27 PM	#2
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Re: Saints O/D Line I did see the rankings, but they can get skewed based on the % participation you chose to set It on. And yes on the LBs. Someone made a comment in the Dallas thread about Ware and what I remembered was the reverse where our TE was stuffed 8 yards back. We don't have to worry DEs as much as LBs shooting inside gaps. That would be a missed pick up I presume? I'll cover RBs and WRs tomorrow in different threads.

11-04-2013, 06:50 PM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Saints O/D Line Originally Posted by halloween 65 Look on the bright side, Brees is actually having to earn all his money. Let's just hope one of the O-line don't go down, what then? They are not playing well at all. Looking on the bright side as well, replacing a woefully under-performing O-lineman with a hungry reserve probably isn't that much of a drop-off is it?

11-04-2013, 08:45 PM	#5
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints O/D Line Originally Posted by Danno Looking on the bright side as well, replacing a woefully under-performing O-lineman with a hungry reserve probably isn't that much of a drop-off is it? The way the starters are playing it could be an upgrade. The Jets D-line looked like pro-bowlers against us, I hate to think what San-Fran, Bengals or K.C. would look like or do? It could get real ugly.

11-04-2013, 07:32 PM	#8
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: Saints O/D Line Originally Posted by TheOak Seeing how we preform on the field is one thing, seeing how our players rank against the rest of the league is another. Total Pressure Allowed (Sacks, Hits, Hurries) Ranked#5 Pass Blocking Efficiency Center (DLP) #5, Guards (Evans #8/Grubs #20), Tackles (Strief #1 Brown #42), *Guards and Tackles are ranked out of 57 players. Run Blocking Efficiency DLP (-3.6) Evans (-3.4) Grubs (7.6) Strief (15) Brown (-4.7) Where are you getting these numbers? Way cool. What is PFT?

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