Saints O/D Line

jeanpierre · 11-04-2013, 08:00 PM

Other than Evans, you can have the whole lot...

Grubbs, the supposed mauler, is getting thown like a toy (i.e. Miami, NYJ)...

DLP, a quick fix we've uncomfortably settled...

Strief, looks like a visiting Sumo whose spent five years to many on the D circuit...

And, don't get me started on Old Man Charles Brown...

We're getting our @$$es whooped; whooped...

We've got to make a REAL committment to the run, even if it's 3 and out for the first three series; let our linemen take the hurt out on these defensive linemen...

WHODATINCA · 11-04-2013, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Seeing how we preform on the field is one thing, seeing how our players rank against the rest of the league is another.

Total Pressure Allowed (Sacks, Hits, Hurries) Ranked#5

Pass Blocking Efficiency
Center (DLP) #5,
Guards (Evans #8/Grubs #20),
Tackles (Strief #1 Brown #42),
*Guards and Tackles are ranked out of 57 players.

Run Blocking Efficiency
DLP (-3.6)
Evans (-3.4)
Grubs (7.6)
Strief (15)
Brown (-4.7)

Where are you getting these numbers? Way cool.

WHODATINCA · 11-04-2013, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Seeing how we preform on the field is one thing, seeing how our players rank against the rest of the league is another.

Total Pressure Allowed (Sacks, Hits, Hurries) Ranked#5

Pass Blocking Efficiency
Center (DLP) #5,
Guards (Evans #8/Grubs #20),
Tackles (Strief #1 Brown #42),
*Guards and Tackles are ranked out of 57 players.

Run Blocking Efficiency
DLP (-3.6)
Evans (-3.4)
Grubs (7.6)
Strief (15)
Brown (-4.7)

Where are you getting these numbers? Way cool. What is PFT?

blackangold · 11-04-2013, 08:38 PM

Our Guards this year are not doing well. Evans is hurt and Grubbs never really played well for us. Brees is best when able to step up in the pocket which he hasnt been able to do this year. Wouldn't mind Harris replacing Grubbs, he is a big boy and did well when playing for Strief.

exile · 11-04-2013, 09:31 PM

I wish we still had Bushrod. :/

xan · 11-04-2013, 09:39 PM

Letting nicks go was the killer. Too much pressure up front. Think he'd come back with a pay cut if I could cure his MRSA? Avoid death, Super Bowl ring, 3m/year pay cut?

halloween 65 · 11-04-2013, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Looking on the bright side as well, replacing a woefully under-performing O-lineman with a hungry reserve probably isn't that much of a drop-off is it?

The way the starters are playing it could be an upgrade. The Jets D-line looked like pro-bowlers against us, I hate to think what San-Fran, Bengals or K.C. would look like or do? It could get real ugly.

saintsfan403 · 11-04-2013, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by WHODATINCA

Where are you getting these numbers? Way cool. What is PFT?

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TheOak · 11-05-2013, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

DLP our 2nd best pass blocker huh?

Here is a twist on that stat. While DLP may be making the blocks... There are no stats that cover not making the right calls on the line which is the Centers job. This year in particular and mostly in the last few games, am i the only one that noticed a gross amount of penalties on Brees while he stands at the line and tried to call out coverages? That is DLPs frikken job to do, DLP/the Center is responsible for calling the blocking assignments of the front 7, drew should be looking for mismatches in the secondary.

This would explain the delay of game penalties, and Drew not having the time to scan all of his receivers match ups in time. Would make logical sense that if you are QB and having to make the line calls for your line to protect your azz and they are not doing it well, when the ball is snapped you have only a few seconds find the receiver of choice. In Drew's case he doesn't have the time to find the "open" miss matches, so he goes where he knows will be the safest throw. Jimmy Graham.

I could be dead wrong but it makes logical sense of a lot of things for me personally.

dizzle88 · 11-05-2013, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Here is a twist on that stat. While DLP may be making the blocks... There are no stats that cover not making the right calls on the line which is the Centers job. This year in particular and mostly in the last few games, am i the only one that noticed a gross amount of penalties on Brees while he stands at the line and tried to call out coverages? That is DLPs frikken job to do, DLP/the Center is responsible for calling the blocking assignments of the front 7, drew should be looking for mismatches in the secondary.

This would explain the delay of game penalties, and Drew not having the time to scan all of his receivers match ups in time. Would make logical sense that if you are QB and having to make the line calls for your line to protect your azz and they are not doing it well, when the ball is snapped you have only a few seconds find the receiver of choice. In Drew's case he doesn't have the time to find the "open" miss matches, so he goes where he knows will be the safest throw. Jimmy Graham.

I could be dead wrong but it makes logical sense of a lot of things for me personally.

I dont think you are that far wrong, brees seemed to take ages to snap the ball vs jets and when the play clock ran out, it showed brees talking to DLP, he didnt look happy

Letting Kromer go may have cost us more than we realize, cant run block, struggling to pass block

11-04-2013, 08:00 PM	#11
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints O/D Line Other than Evans, you can have the whole lot... Grubbs, the supposed mauler, is getting thown like a toy (i.e. Miami, NYJ)... DLP, a quick fix we've uncomfortably settled... Strief, looks like a visiting Sumo whose spent five years to many on the D circuit... And, don't get me started on Old Man Charles Brown... We're getting our @$$es whooped; whooped... We've got to make a REAL committment to the run, even if it's 3 and out for the first three series; let our linemen take the hurt out on these defensive linemen... WhoDatFan26 likes this.

11-04-2013, 08:28 PM	#12
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: Saints O/D Line Originally Posted by TheOak Seeing how we preform on the field is one thing, seeing how our players rank against the rest of the league is another. Total Pressure Allowed (Sacks, Hits, Hurries) Ranked#5 Pass Blocking Efficiency Center (DLP) #5, Guards (Evans #8/Grubs #20), Tackles (Strief #1 Brown #42), *Guards and Tackles are ranked out of 57 players. Run Blocking Efficiency DLP (-3.6) Evans (-3.4) Grubs (7.6) Strief (15) Brown (-4.7) Where are you getting these numbers? Way cool.

11-04-2013, 08:32 PM	#13
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: Saints O/D Line Originally Posted by TheOak Seeing how we preform on the field is one thing, seeing how our players rank against the rest of the league is another. Total Pressure Allowed (Sacks, Hits, Hurries) Ranked#5 Pass Blocking Efficiency Center (DLP) #5, Guards (Evans #8/Grubs #20), Tackles (Strief #1 Brown #42), *Guards and Tackles are ranked out of 57 players. Run Blocking Efficiency DLP (-3.6) Evans (-3.4) Grubs (7.6) Strief (15) Brown (-4.7) Where are you getting these numbers? Way cool. What is PFT?

11-04-2013, 08:38 PM	#14
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints O/D Line Our Guards this year are not doing well. Evans is hurt and Grubbs never really played well for us. Brees is best when able to step up in the pocket which he hasnt been able to do this year. Wouldn't mind Harris replacing Grubbs, he is a big boy and did well when playing for Strief.

11-04-2013, 09:31 PM	#15
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11-04-2013, 09:39 PM	#16
xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,371 Blog Entries: 34	Re: Saints O/D Line Letting nicks go was the killer. Too much pressure up front. Think he'd come back with a pay cut if I could cure his MRSA? Avoid death, Super Bowl ring, 3m/year pay cut?

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints O/D Line Originally Posted by Danno Looking on the bright side as well, replacing a woefully under-performing O-lineman with a hungry reserve probably isn't that much of a drop-off is it? The way the starters are playing it could be an upgrade. The Jets D-line looked like pro-bowlers against us, I hate to think what San-Fran, Bengals or K.C. would look like or do? It could get real ugly.

11-04-2013, 09:47 PM	#18
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11-05-2013, 08:09 AM	#19
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Saints O/D Line Originally Posted by Danno DLP our 2nd best pass blocker huh? Here is a twist on that stat. While DLP may be making the blocks... There are no stats that cover not making the right calls on the line which is the Centers job. This year in particular and mostly in the last few games, am i the only one that noticed a gross amount of penalties on Brees while he stands at the line and tried to call out coverages? That is DLPs frikken job to do, DLP/the Center is responsible for calling the blocking assignments of the front 7, drew should be looking for mismatches in the secondary. This would explain the delay of game penalties, and Drew not having the time to scan all of his receivers match ups in time. Would make logical sense that if you are QB and having to make the line calls for your line to protect your azz and they are not doing it well, when the ball is snapped you have only a few seconds find the receiver of choice. In Drew's case he doesn't have the time to find the "open" miss matches, so he goes where he knows will be the safest throw. Jimmy Graham. I could be dead wrong but it makes logical sense of a lot of things for me personally. frydaddy likes this.
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11-05-2013, 08:17 AM	#20
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,359	Re: Saints O/D Line Originally Posted by TheOak Here is a twist on that stat. While DLP may be making the blocks... There are no stats that cover not making the right calls on the line which is the Centers job. This year in particular and mostly in the last few games, am i the only one that noticed a gross amount of penalties on Brees while he stands at the line and tried to call out coverages? That is DLPs frikken job to do, DLP/the Center is responsible for calling the blocking assignments of the front 7, drew should be looking for mismatches in the secondary. This would explain the delay of game penalties, and Drew not having the time to scan all of his receivers match ups in time. Would make logical sense that if you are QB and having to make the line calls for your line to protect your azz and they are not doing it well, when the ball is snapped you have only a few seconds find the receiver of choice. In Drew's case he doesn't have the time to find the "open" miss matches, so he goes where he knows will be the safest throw. Jimmy Graham. I could be dead wrong but it makes logical sense of a lot of things for me personally. I dont think you are that far wrong, brees seemed to take ages to snap the ball vs jets and when the play clock ran out, it showed brees talking to DLP, he didnt look happy Letting Kromer go may have cost us more than we realize, cant run block, struggling to pass block

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